Sanding Top layer of my horn.

Patric_Bernard · 11-10-2007, 06:50 AM

So I just finished the beginning of sanding the top layer off of my horn, I got most of the big sections and finished the bell, and I must say, I'm liking the looks of it. It was a brass laqcured cornet from Berkely Music. (got the horn for 200 off ebay so I'm not sweating a price loss or anything) I cant wait to finish up tomorrow and get to playing it. It looks really awesome right now, I'll post some pictures up when I'm Done.

tatakata · 11-10-2007, 09:45 AM

So is this like a poor mans "shot or bead" blast finish

Post pics when you are done.

Patric_Bernard · 11-10-2007, 07:55 PM

ok here are some pics... not done yet as you will see. You can click to enlarge the pictures.

Brekelefuw · 11-10-2007, 10:05 PM

Why did you choose to do this?

Patric_Bernard · 11-10-2007, 10:07 PM

Well I wanted to remove the laquer, and after seeing the stage 1 horn that someone posted on here, and saw the sanded look, i loved it haha. I'm gonna bead blast all of the hard to reach sections sometime later.

Blazing Asian · 11-11-2007, 07:14 AM

I was thinking about doing this...Could you explain in detail what exactly you are doing? What grain or sandpaper are you using?

Patric_Bernard · 11-11-2007, 07:29 AM

well for the very top layer, and a very ruff finish at first, I used a 120 Grit paper. Then to smooth it out i switched to a 300 grit. It is very difficult to reach all of the small sections though, so you might not want to do this if you dont have a sand/bead blaster that you could use give the hard to reach sections the same look. I really love the sound it has now. Its a tad brighter than before, and I think a little more responsive.

crowmadic · 11-11-2007, 08:37 AM

I'd like to share what I've done with some ebay horns I bought. I use a basic lacquer remover and dip a fine grade of steel wool into it then proceed to the raw brass. You can use rougher grades for different effects. The steel wool is more pliable than sandpaper and you can get into more corners. Why do this? Because it's there.....just kidding........I too like the above mentioned effects, and it's always an adventure to see how the sound changes. You should do this under parental guidence, even if you're as old and crazy as me!.....crow

rowuk · 11-11-2007, 09:12 AM

Make sure that ALL entry points to the horn are sealed before doing stuff like this. After that, completely wipe down and bathe the horn before unsealing!
The laquer/metal dust that you are removing can wander into the horn and surprise you with a sticky valve right before something very special!

confuoco · 11-11-2007, 09:20 AM

How are you going to bead blast it. What equipment does that require? Good luck.

11-10-2007, 06:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Brand: Bach, Schilke, Getzen Posts: 1,925	Sanding Top layer of my horn. So I just finished the beginning of sanding the top layer off of my horn, I got most of the big sections and finished the bell, and I must say, I'm liking the looks of it. It was a brass laqcured cornet from Berkely Music. (got the horn for 200 off ebay so I'm not sweating a price loss or anything) I cant wait to finish up tomorrow and get to playing it. It looks really awesome right now, I'll post some pictures up when I'm Done.
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11-10-2007, 09:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
tatakata Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 957	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. So is this like a poor mans "shot or bead" blast finish Post pics when you are done.

11-10-2007, 07:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Brand: Bach, Schilke, Getzen Posts: 1,925	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. ok here are some pics... not done yet as you will see. You can click to enlarge the pictures.
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11-10-2007, 10:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Brekelefuw Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 897	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. Why did you choose to do this?

11-10-2007, 10:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Brand: Bach, Schilke, Getzen Posts: 1,925	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. Well I wanted to remove the laquer, and after seeing the stage 1 horn that someone posted on here, and saw the sanded look, i loved it haha. I'm gonna bead blast all of the hard to reach sections sometime later.
	__________________ Bach Omega Bach 3C Bach 3c Megatone Berkley Cornet Bach Cornet 3C Teachers Arbans book, Clarke Studies Book. Nick Drozdoff's online lessons and words of wisdom through email.

11-11-2007, 07:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
Blazing Asian Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2006 Brand: Bach and King Posts: 115	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. I was thinking about doing this...Could you explain in detail what exactly you are doing? What grain or sandpaper are you using?
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11-11-2007, 07:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Brand: Bach, Schilke, Getzen Posts: 1,925	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. well for the very top layer, and a very ruff finish at first, I used a 120 Grit paper. Then to smooth it out i switched to a 300 grit. It is very difficult to reach all of the small sections though, so you might not want to do this if you dont have a sand/bead blaster that you could use give the hard to reach sections the same look. I really love the sound it has now. Its a tad brighter than before, and I think a little more responsive.
	__________________ Bach Omega Bach 3C Bach 3c Megatone Berkley Cornet Bach Cornet 3C Teachers Arbans book, Clarke Studies Book. Nick Drozdoff's online lessons and words of wisdom through email.

11-11-2007, 08:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
crowmadic Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 524	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. I'd like to share what I've done with some ebay horns I bought. I use a basic lacquer remover and dip a fine grade of steel wool into it then proceed to the raw brass. You can use rougher grades for different effects. The steel wool is more pliable than sandpaper and you can get into more corners. Why do this? Because it's there.....just kidding........I too like the above mentioned effects, and it's always an adventure to see how the sound changes. You should do this under parental guidence, even if you're as old and crazy as me!.....crow

11-11-2007, 09:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Brand: Nat, Piston, Rotary Posts: 3,923	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. Make sure that ALL entry points to the horn are sealed before doing stuff like this. After that, completely wipe down and bathe the horn before unsealing! The laquer/metal dust that you are removing can wander into the horn and surprise you with a sticky valve right before something very special!
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11-11-2007, 09:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
confuoco Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 184	Re: Sanding Top layer of my horn. How are you going to bead blast it. What equipment does that require? Good luck.

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