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    Utimate User Peter McNeill's Avatar
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    Re: Strad strad strad strad xeno xeno xeno

    Try a Jaeger Diamond, and a Getzen 490/or Capri before you part with your cash. You may find the love of your life.

    Nothing wrong with a Bach Strad or Zeno. Plenty of choice out there and have fun trying them. Go find your own horn by playing them all, and then make your own decision.

    BTW what do you play at present?
    Sometimes you need to enjoy what you have as well. My best trumpet was a Bach Mercedes which was a lovely horn, but I never appreciated it as I did not know any better at the time.

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    Re: Strad strad strad strad xeno xeno xeno

    I'm a middle and high school band director. The reason that there are so many Strads and Xenos in high school bands is that they fit within a box that is both narrow and wide. First, there are more non-trumpet playing band directors than trumpet playing; so, they have to go off the recommendations of their college methods classes. Those methods classes are largely taught by classically trained trumpet players, for whom the Strad or Xeno produces the best sound. In all honesty, I do the same thing for the non-trumpet instruments. Secondly, for the type of playing that most high school players will do (concert band, marching band, high school level jazz band), a Strad or Xeno produces a jack-of-all-trades sound.

    All that being said, none of my kids can afford $2600 for a new Strad or whatever a new Xeno costs, so I am open to cheaper alternatives such as Eastman, Jupiter, etc. At your level, you can't go wrong with a Strad or Xeno.
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    It could be a case of "No one ever got fired for buying IBM"; Recommending a Strad or a Xeno is pretty safe because both those horns have a great reputation and broad professional acceptance. Anybody who doesn't sound well on one can't blame the horn, or the person who recommended it!

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    If you want to be the kid that is different from the rest, try out a King instrument.

    My beginner horn was a King 601 and then after 3 1/2 years of playing, I acquired a Bach Strad. I liked the horn while I had it, but once I started playing King's Silver Flair trumpet, I was sold. I only owned my Strad for about a year and a half. Don't think I'll ever buy another.

    But like all others, YOU have to try out horns and then determine what you like. At my region band audition this year, there were 3 rooms of about 30-40 trumpet players. about 25 in each room had Strads. A few had Yamaha's. Then there was one kid with an Olds, and then the me and a few others from my school were the only people who had King instruments.

    Ok, I made 9th at region. Of the 8 people that beat me, only 3 had Strads.

    My two big points:
    -The player makes the horn sound good. A horn doesn't sound good on its own.
    -Before you buy a horn, try out horns from AT LEAST 4 or 5 companies.

    Lastly, I can RECOMMEND you some horns to TRY OUT, but you are the ultimate decision maker.
    King Silver Flair
    King Silver Sonic
    Getzen Capri
    Conn Connstellation 38B
    CannonBall trumpets (I don't know any model numbers off the top of my head, but these are great horns.) (Not as good as my horns though )

    But these are 5 great horns that can stand up to Strads and Xenos. You have to not only choose the one you like best, but you also have to make whatever you pick sound good. It isn't going to help you right away. Hope this helps.
    -2001-03 King Silver Flair 2055t
    -1995-2000 King Silver Flair 2055t
    -Unknown Brand Trumpet (gifted to me from a now deceased relative)
    -60's King Tempo Cornet

    -Yamaha Stage Custom Advantage Royal Blue with Sabian B8 Cymbals & Vic Firth Sticks
    -Yamaha DTXtreme III Electronic Set
    -DW 2000 Series Double Bass pedals
    -various Yamaha hardware and stands

    -Ibanez GRG120BDXL (Left Handed)
    -Agile Hawker (Left Handed)

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    I have Bachs in the arsenal at the moment but I would be delighted with a Yamaha. I don't think you could go wrong with either horn for High school. Try some out and make up your own mind.

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    It's not hard to make a list of horn makers that have consistent good quality. Once you have that try them out and see what feels good. I've tried Strads and Xenos, I liked the Xeno reverse lead pipe the best, thinking about getting one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricecakes230 View Post
    ...People tell me a Bach Stradivarius is where it's at...
    People are right.

    Being able to play one (or any other trumpet) well is even better. It all boils down to having a horn that does what you want it to do with the least effort.
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    I firmly believe the right trumpet will find us if we can keep from being blinded by brands. I really like trumpets on the lightweight side for my Bb trumpet. I played a Getzen Severinsen until it died of old age and then a Schilke B6. I put a Monette prototype leadpipe on the Getzen, then moved it to the Schilke. I look for intonation, response and the ability to get the sound in my head out the bell.

    If you can play the heck out of it, it doesn't matter what brand it is!
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    You have to consider how your "I have an XYZ" line will sound to a viola player with no knowledge of trumpets. If you say "I have a Bach" she'll recommend cough medicine; "I have a Pinto" and she'll tell you to see a chiropodist.

    "I have a Wild Thing" gets pretty good mileage
    Bb Trumpets: Yamaha YTR-6335HSII - Flip Oakes "Wild Thing" - 1972 Getzen Eterna "Severinsen" - 1980 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign Studio - B&S 3005 WTR-L - 1963 Besson 10-10 - Monke Mystery Horn - Spiri Vario
    C Trumpet: Inderbinen Alpha 200
    Bb Bass: 1961 Holton #58 "Symphony"

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    It's about you and the sound that you want to make.
    The best hardware setup is the one that intrudes least on that relationship.

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