Taken by a keyboard

TisEkard · 07-07-2007, 06:17 PM

I was just watching Live Earth and was blown away not only by how terrible some of these band were, but also that a lot of the horn parts are played by a guy on a keyboard. Same with some broadway shows I have seen, the string players are all cut and replaced with one guy on a keyboard. What do you guys think about this. Whats next?

rowuk · 07-07-2007, 06:42 PM

What is next is the same as with the standard and latin dance competitions - no more bands, everything from CD. Perfectly reproducable, consistent, no clams - they just haven't figured out what to do with the conductor yet..........

I have yet to see the unions blacklist a show because brass parts were played by a keyboard! I wonder if the composers approve of the rearrangement?

Jimi Michiel · 07-08-2007, 02:28 AM

Often times the conductor is also playing a keyboard part. Kind of lame, but at least he can't give you the hand!

Annie · 07-08-2007, 12:07 PM

What's next? I think there'll still be a spot for live musicians in the future...it's just gigs will be very limited. At least that's what I think...the people who are very rich will still want to hear live musicians. Nothing can replace them - not even that trumpet-playing robot.

nickcapstaff · 07-08-2007, 04:44 PM

what's next? Learn a keyboard as well as a trumpet? (Shrugs shoulders) - if ya can't beat them...!

JunkyT · 07-08-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rowuk

What is next is the same as with the standard and latin dance competitions - no more bands, everything from CD. Perfectly reproducable, consistent, no clams - they just haven't figured out what to do with the conductor yet..........

I have yet to see the unions blacklist a show because brass parts were played by a keyboard! I wonder if the composers approve of the rearrangement?

Didn't the NYC pit musicians strike a couple years ago because of this? I don't remember what the outcome was...

While there will be less and less jobs because of this, there will always be jobs for musicians...we just need to be even more at the top of our game than ever before!

rowuk · 07-08-2007, 06:48 PM

Hey everybody, there is HOPE out there!
A buddy of mine works at the ING Bank here in Germany and they have started up a bank band! 3 Saxes, a clarinet, 2 guitars, bass, drums, 2 keyboards and a couple of singers. They got a coach to write arrangements and rehearse with them. They did not sound bad! Maybe a return of the factory band?

Annie · 07-09-2007, 06:36 PM

That's awesome! Maybe something like that could happen over here...

johnmarkpainter · 07-09-2007, 11:32 PM

I do it....part of my recurring work is doing Filmscore using lots of samples. I include as much live instrumentation as I can because it always sounds better.

I have also created performance tracks to be used for stage productions (they were in locations where you could not put together a decent Orchestra even if you could afford to).

The clients DO NOTICE how good the real thing sounds.
They generally want to have as many live players as they can afford.

jmp

trpt2345 · 07-10-2007, 02:00 AM

Just a further example of of the extreme and irreversible decline of civilization in our era.

Michael McLaughlin

07-07-2007, 06:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
TisEkard Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Valencia/Orange County Brand: B&S Posts: 73	Taken by a keyboard I was just watching Live Earth and was blown away not only by how terrible some of these band were, but also that a lot of the horn parts are played by a guy on a keyboard. Same with some broadway shows I have seen, the string players are all cut and replaced with one guy on a keyboard. What do you guys think about this. Whats next?
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07-07-2007, 06:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Brand: Nat, Piston, Rotary Posts: 3,917	Re: Taken by a keyboard What is next is the same as with the standard and latin dance competitions - no more bands, everything from CD. Perfectly reproducable, consistent, no clams - they just haven't figured out what to do with the conductor yet.......... I have yet to see the unions blacklist a show because brass parts were played by a keyboard! I wonder if the composers approve of the rearrangement?
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07-08-2007, 02:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jimi Michiel Forte User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Syracuse/Fort Worth Brand: Monette Posts: 1,671	Re: Taken by a keyboard Often times the conductor is also playing a keyboard part. Kind of lame, but at least he can't give you the hand!
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07-08-2007, 12:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Annie Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Brand: BACH Posts: 410	Re: Taken by a keyboard What's next? I think there'll still be a spot for live musicians in the future...it's just gigs will be very limited. At least that's what I think...the people who are very rich will still want to hear live musicians. Nothing can replace them - not even that trumpet-playing robot.
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nickcapstaff New Friend Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2	Re: Taken by a keyboard what's next? Learn a keyboard as well as a trumpet? (Shrugs shoulders) - if ya can't beat them...!
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rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Brand: Nat, Piston, Rotary Posts: 3,917	Re: Taken by a keyboard Hey everybody, there is HOPE out there! A buddy of mine works at the ING Bank here in Germany and they have started up a bank band! 3 Saxes, a clarinet, 2 guitars, bass, drums, 2 keyboards and a couple of singers. They got a coach to write arrangements and rehearse with them. They did not sound bad! Maybe a return of the factory band?
	__________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

07-09-2007, 06:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Annie Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Brand: BACH Posts: 410	Re: Taken by a keyboard That's awesome! Maybe something like that could happen over here...
	__________________ ~Annie I may not be great yet, but I'm working hard on it and one day I'm gonna be there.

07-09-2007, 11:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
johnmarkpainter Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 111	Re: Taken by a keyboard I do it....part of my recurring work is doing Filmscore using lots of samples. I include as much live instrumentation as I can because it always sounds better. I have also created performance tracks to be used for stage productions (they were in locations where you could not put together a decent Orchestra even if you could afford to). The clients DO NOTICE how good the real thing sounds. They generally want to have as many live players as they can afford. jmp

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trpt2345 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 747	Re: Taken by a keyboard Just a further example of of the extreme and irreversible decline of civilization in our era. Michael McLaughlin
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