Joseph, everyone has different levels of playing the trumpet. VM also has different levels. Like anything else, it is not black and white. It gets complicated with advancement of age and in relationship with/from other medical problems.
AngeloMusic, next time you are playing hold your horn with one hand and you put your hands on your abdomen and tell us if they are relaxed. If they are relaxed, raise your sound level and pitch a couple of octaves.
Rowuk, you and most everyone else here are not a doctor but by the time I finish learning this subject, I might become one. I appreciate nevertheless your concern for my well being. Once I've decided that I have learned enough will be the time when I decide to sell or keep my 5 pro horns. One never been used C trumpet is already gone. And just for your information, I appreciate Jeanne's (sp) offer and have not rejected it nor accepted it for I have other issues to clear up first. I think that you understand.
Hose, I appreciate you sharing your medical information and it seems that you don’t have much to worry about. You should know that there are two different types of heart murmurs. Your doctor probably has found that you have a Systolic heart murmur (see below). Also, heart murmurs do not remain static but gradually worsen with time; so, Hose you should keep in touch with your doctor on a regular scheduled basis.
For those who do not know what a heart murmur is, a heart murmur is usually present when there is a heart valve problem. A valve is a 'one way door' that keeps blood moving in your heart. If there is a problem with a valve, the heart has to work harder to pump blood to the body. To mix a heart valve problem with VM which blocks the blood in the heart can become quite risky and dangerous.
A heart murmur is categorized according to its occurrence in the cardiac cycle. It can be:
These murmurs occur when the blood is vigorously pumped from the heart. Systolic murmurs may be innocent, or may indicate potential problems such as aortic stenosis or mitral regurgitation. A systolic murmur occurs between the first and second heart sounds.
These murmurs occur during the heart’s resting phase. All of these murmurs must be regarded as serious and may indicate aortic regurgitation or mitral stenosis. A diastolic murmur occurs when the heart muscle relaxes between beats. It occurs after the second heart sound.
The heart beat usually makes two sounds: Lub and Dub. Lub is the first sound and Dub is the second sound. These sounds follow each other and are not separated by extra sounds.
Heart murmurs have different sounds. A heart murmur will be heard as a swishing or a whistling sound in addition to the normal Lub-Dub sound. The sounds can help indicate whether the murmur is “normal” or “abnormal”.
A heart murmur can also be classified according its loudness, with grade 1 soft and grade 6 real loud. I don't know what this means in terms of music notation, p, FM, or FFF but just take it on a semantic differential scale.
For those who really want to get into this subject and to get some answers can write to Dr. Donohue who publishes people's medical questions in a Florida newspaper. Here’s his address: Paul Donohue, M.D., P.O. Box 536475, Orlando, FL 32853-6475
Majestic1, I think you should come out of the closet and let your loved ones know you really want to be a cellist. As far as your health and well being we all have our own to be concerned with. No one is going to worry about yours, especially if you are concerned about dying because of trumpet playing.
Take up knitting, but you might poke your arm with the darning needles.
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Thank you for providing usefull information on trumpet.
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As much as these posts have provided a source of amusement for some of us, I suspect that we all hope that you can one day find a way to play your trumpets without fear of permanent damage. Perhaps you know more about your own body than many of the rest are prepared to examine in ours - We all deal with our problems, perceived or actual, in different ways - let's hope your dramas all turn out for the best. Stay focussed and keep your chin up (not too far 'cause that'll reduce airflow to your instrument just a bit. Be positive, be healthy, live long time. Thanks for the fun at your expense though. No offence intended.
Interestingly enough I think I've had this problem. I did something stupid and put a small mpc in an already tight horn while playing Mahler causing the pressure to back up in my throught. Really stupid seeing as I normally play efficiantly and with very little pressure. I actually threw my heartbeat off. This was in November and it's still off now... It scared the shit out of me at first but I'm so used to it now that I barely notice when it goes off. I went to my doctor (eventually) and she said that I didn't have a murmer or anything and that it was probably benign. I should probably see a cardioligist but I can never find the time.... All I know is that I'm not dead, it doesn't hurt, and there's not way in hell I'm giving up trumpet. Also, I've never passed out while playing or experianced anything more than a moderate head rush... I don't play very high, very loud, or both at the same time very often.
p.s. please excuse my spelling..... I'm not thinking very well at the moment.
A friend of mine had an uncle who went to the doctor and was told that he had the flu. He thought that this wasn’t so bad because everybody gets the flu. Much like what you said that your doctor told you, it is probablybenign which means…of a kind or gentle disposition; gracious; generous; favorable. A week later, not like you which is now over 5 months later, he had the same feelings and went to get a second opinion from another doctor who was a specialist. The doctor put him in the hospital and started treatments for cancer.
He daughter was going to get married in 6 months and the doctor could not say that he would live that long. The wedding was moved up to 5 months earlier. He was getting worse by the day and his wife asked the doctor if he, the doctor, could do something so that her husband would live long enough for the wedding. The day before the wedding, he was pumped up with packed blood cells, given a tank of oxygen and a wheel chair.
He went to the wedding and he said that he felt great compared to what he felt like a month ago and he praised his doctor for it. Seven days later, he became paralyzed and could only blink his eyes. Seven hours later he made three very deep, sharp breaths and then he died.
Without that second doctor, he would not have been able to attend his daughter’s wedding.
Annie, if you can’t find the time to visit a special doctor, then it might be that the time will find you when the doctor will be visiting you and without your knowledge.
Don’t play with your health!
If you are worried about what he might say concerning your trumpet playing, don’t worry he's not going to tell you to stop playing. I don’t know of one doctor who would say such a thing. At the worst, he would say to play it in moderation.
Do yourself a favor and us too by getting this matter cleared up NOW!!
Last edited by Majestic1; 04-10-2008 at 06:37 AM.
OOPs. I somehow deleted my comments & hit enter at the same time. Must be part of getting old! I better avoid that VM for sure!!
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Not to make light of your situation, but...anyone I know will tell you, my Trumpet playing is dangerous to everyone else's health
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