Upgrade to 8310Z or buy a new pipe?

trumpetpimp · 07-30-2004, 05:31 PM

I just tried the 8310Z today. I was very impressed. I played the 6310Z a few times and as much I wanted to like it I found it stuffy. The 8310Z is everything I like in my trumpet and more. It has a huge warm sound that would blend just as well in concert band or quintet as my 6335HII and lit up nicely in the upper register. It slotted nicer up there too. I've always had trouble finding the high E and F on my trumpet but this horn opened them up nicely. [My double G is pretty tame so it's tough to comment on that.

] The medium bore seemed to blow just as open as my ML but the response seemed quicker. I'm looking forward to trying a silver version to see if it's brighter and quicker.

Here's my question. Can I get a horn that's as good or better than the 8310Z in my 6335 by changing the pipe on it? I've been thinking about going Pilczuk or GR(when they finally release their darn pipes). I understand GR will be producing a tuning slide that will be fit with the new pipe so I could even switch to reverse tuning and kill some braces in the meantime.

On the other hand....what do you guys think if going for the 8310Z as a bright horn and modding the 6335 to be darker. It's got a yellow brass bell and it's only ML but I suspect a bigger pipe(maybe copper) and some heavy caps mixed with a custom GR 65.6VB fatboy might do it. Thoughts?

[This same post is on TH but I thought it would be wise to post here as well.]

dcstep · 07-30-2004, 07:22 PM

I could swear that I already responded to this. Is it over on TH also?

trumpetpimp · 07-31-2004, 02:02 AM

Check the last line of the post, Dave.

dcstep · 08-02-2004, 10:08 AM

Oops!

CJDJazzTpt · 08-30-2004, 04:13 PM

Just buy the new one.... That's always more fun! While you're at it treat your self to a new flugel and combo gig bag to carry the horns!

WWWD? (What Would Wynton Do?) LOL!

J/k.... I heard the new 8310Z's are much improved over the 6310Z.

-C-

07-30-2004, 05:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
trumpetpimp Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 268	Upgrade to 8310Z or buy a new pipe? I just tried the 8310Z today. I was very impressed. I played the 6310Z a few times and as much I wanted to like it I found it stuffy. The 8310Z is everything I like in my trumpet and more. It has a huge warm sound that would blend just as well in concert band or quintet as my 6335HII and lit up nicely in the upper register. It slotted nicer up there too. I've always had trouble finding the high E and F on my trumpet but this horn opened them up nicely. [My double G is pretty tame so it's tough to comment on that. ] The medium bore seemed to blow just as open as my ML but the response seemed quicker. I'm looking forward to trying a silver version to see if it's brighter and quicker. Here's my question. Can I get a horn that's as good or better than the 8310Z in my 6335 by changing the pipe on it? I've been thinking about going Pilczuk or GR(when they finally release their darn pipes). I understand GR will be producing a tuning slide that will be fit with the new pipe so I could even switch to reverse tuning and kill some braces in the meantime. On the other hand....what do you guys think if going for the 8310Z as a bright horn and modding the 6335 to be darker. It's got a yellow brass bell and it's only ML but I suspect a bigger pipe(maybe copper) and some heavy caps mixed with a custom GR 65.6VB fatboy might do it. Thoughts? [This same post is on TH but I thought it would be wise to post here as well.] __________________ For sale: Courtois 154 flugel http://www.trumpetherald.com/marketp...detail&id=5375 Kanstul 1500 Bb copper bell http://www.trumpetherald.com/marketp...detail&id=7504

07-30-2004, 07:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 680	I could swear that I already responded to this. Is it over on TH also? __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

07-31-2004, 02:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
trumpetpimp Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 268	Check the last line of the post, Dave. __________________ For sale: Courtois 154 flugel http://www.trumpetherald.com/marketp...detail&id=5375 Kanstul 1500 Bb copper bell http://www.trumpetherald.com/marketp...detail&id=7504

08-02-2004, 10:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 680	Oops! __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

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08-30-2004, 04:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
CJDJazzTpt Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 92	Just buy the new one.... That's always more fun! While you're at it treat your self to a new flugel and combo gig bag to carry the horns! WWWD? (What Would Wynton Do?) LOL! J/k.... I heard the new 8310Z's are much improved over the 6310Z. -C-

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