Valve Oil Debate

trumpet blower88 · 07-24-2005, 06:58 PM

Wich do you prefer and why?

My section has been debateing this the last few years. My teacher, our other section leader, and I all prefer petroleum based oil, but the other 11 kids in my section are supporters of this "Fat Cat" Synthetic stuff.

I like petroleum based (like pro-oil from Kanstul) because 1) it seems to last longer, and 2) it won't harm the valves. I've heard that sythetic oils will start to corrode the metal on the valves and the inside of the caseings. I don't know if this is true or not, but I figure that the rumor has to start somewhere by someone who had some bad luck with synthetic oil.

I was just curious to what oils everyone else used and with one (synthetic or petroleum) you like better.

butxifxnot · 07-24-2005, 07:18 PM

Could someone educate me on the difference? The physical difference. I use stuff called Blue Juice.

Manny Laureano · 07-24-2005, 09:55 PM

I use synthetics in my car and my horn!

ML

brian moon · 07-24-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by butxifxnot

I use stuff called Blue Juice.

How can you stand the smell of that stuff? It gives me a sore throat.

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Originally Posted by trumpet blower88

My teacher, our other section leader, and I all prefer petroleum based oil, but the other 11 kids in my section are supporters of this "Fat Cat" Synthetic stuff.

I have an empty Fat Cat bottle that says it contains petroleum distillates. Is there something new?

butxifxnot · 07-24-2005, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brian moon

Quote:

Originally Posted by butxifxnot

I use stuff called Blue Juice.

How can you stand the smell of that stuff?

It oils.

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It gives me a sore throat.

I wouldn't know; haven't used it orally.
So, what is the difference between synthetic and petroleum? One is more flammable than the other?

Anonymous · 07-24-2005, 11:52 PM

Manny, What synthetics are you running in your car and horn?

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Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

I use synthetics in my car and my horn!

ML

trumpet blower88 · 07-24-2005, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian moon

Quote:

Originally Posted by butxifxnot

I use stuff called Blue Juice.

How can you stand the smell of that stuff? It gives me a sore throat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumpet blower88

My teacher, our other section leader, and I all prefer petroleum based oil, but the other 11 kids in my section are supporters of this "Fat Cat" Synthetic stuff.

I have an empty Fat Cat bottle that says it contains petroleum distillates. Is there something new?

Yeah... Now I'm confused... I thought Fat Cat was synthetic, and Blue Juice was petroleum based... Possibly I have them confused.

Ok... I got it straight now. The rest of the section used blue juice (synthetic), my teacher and other section leader uses Fat Cat (petroleum).

Sorry, I got the names mixed up.

Bourbon City · 07-25-2005, 12:00 AM

I use Zaja Blue. I think it is petro based. Good stuff.

brian moon · 07-25-2005, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by trumpet blower88

Ok... I got it straight now. The rest of the section used blue juice (synthetic), my teacher and other section leader uses Fat Cat (petroleum).

Sorry, I got the names mixed up.

Blue Juice smells like mineral spirits or kerosene. That wouldn't be synthetic either. Mineral spirits are (is?) contain petroleum distillates also. Kerosene is well.... made from oil.

Manny you don't use that Monette endorsed Ultra Pure oil on your valves? What do you use?

Clarino · 07-25-2005, 06:17 AM

Olive Oil, niether synthetic nor petroleum based. Smells nice too if you get some garlic infused stuff!

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07-24-2005, 06:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
trumpet blower88 Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Brand: Kanstul Posts: 644	Valve Oil Debate Wich do you prefer and why? My section has been debateing this the last few years. My teacher, our other section leader, and I all prefer petroleum based oil, but the other 11 kids in my section are supporters of this "Fat Cat" Synthetic stuff. I like petroleum based (like pro-oil from Kanstul) because 1) it seems to last longer, and 2) it won't harm the valves. I've heard that sythetic oils will start to corrode the metal on the valves and the inside of the caseings. I don't know if this is true or not, but I figure that the rumor has to start somewhere by someone who had some bad luck with synthetic oil. I was just curious to what oils everyone else used and with one (synthetic or petroleum) you like better.
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07-24-2005, 07:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
butxifxnot Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Here... Posts: 150	Could someone educate me on the difference? The physical difference. I use stuff called Blue Juice.
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07-25-2005, 12:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bourbon City Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Louisville/Bardstown, Kentucky Posts: 195	I use Zaja Blue. I think it is petro based. Good stuff.
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07-25-2005, 06:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Clarino Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sheffield, England, UK Posts: 644	Olive Oil, niether synthetic nor petroleum based. Smells nice too if you get some garlic infused stuff!
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Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	I use synthetics in my car and my horn! ML

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