Velocity studies

crowmadic · 10-18-2007, 05:52 AM

How do Velocity studies help? What are some good books for Velocity Studies? Are there any TMer warnings about Velocity Studies?

rowuk · 10-18-2007, 10:49 AM

Velocity studies are there to turn precision into habits. Endless repeats of specific motions are necessary to reprogram your body. I am a big fan of turning precision into a habit!

crowmadic · 10-18-2007, 12:25 PM

rowuk, Can you suggest some books that focus on Velocity studies?I have Arbans, Clark, Schlossberg, and Chichowicz Flow Studies. Perhaps there's something in one of these books that could be used? Thanks.......crow

Bear · 10-18-2007, 04:11 PM

Hey crowmadic, all the books will work great for velocity. The clark etudes at the end of chapter are great. Every book out there is useful, it's just in how the performer uses them. Peace.

rowuk · 10-18-2007, 04:52 PM

I use Clarke and St. Jacome

cornetguy · 10-18-2007, 06:18 PM

i use all of the above too. vizzutti has some too also look in brandt orchestral etudes there are several in there that can be used too.

also velocity studies help with getting you to move air in a never ending stream rather then chopping up note by note.

rowuk · 10-19-2007, 04:11 AM

Crow,
I thought about this last night a bit more.

I think a very important part of velocity studies is the 120% precision (finger movement being ABSOLUTELY rhythmic and synchronous with the tonguing) required. The trick is not to play as fast as you can, but to stretch the envelope on how fast your precision can still be maintained. A metronome is an absolute must. ANY irregularity means that you need to slow down again.

I play these things softly and really bang the valves down (fast transitions between notes). In theory, 30 minutes of velocity studies should not waste your chops (but your fingers will get tired!)! St. Jacome has these things written out with all of the articulation variations.

Remember, even although precision is critical to musicality, a well rounded routine will move you forward faster!

crowmadic · 10-19-2007, 07:01 AM

I appreciate all the recommendations but HOW DO I INDENTIFY A GOOD VELOCITY EXERCISE?.........crow

rowuk · 10-19-2007, 09:02 AM

The St Jacome ones are based on scales, series of notes sometimes just covering a 5th (C,D,E,F,G,F,E,D repeated). This pattern can be committed to memory-perfectly. Then we tie two, tongue two and commit that to memory / tie 3, tongue one / tongue one, tie three / tongue all. Each combination requires something a bit different from our motor system. By practicing this stuff in perfect rhythm, we store well prepared patterns for future use.
Important for these studies is the limited range and repetition! We want to store tidbits not big chunks.

crowmadic · 10-19-2007, 07:17 PM

rowuk, Once again...thanks.......crow

10-18-2007, 05:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
crowmadic Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 539	Velocity studies How do Velocity studies help? What are some good books for Velocity Studies? Are there any TMer warnings about Velocity Studies?

10-18-2007, 10:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,360	Re: Velocity studies Velocity studies are there to turn precision into habits. Endless repeats of specific motions are necessary to reprogram your body. I am a big fan of turning precision into a habit! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

10-18-2007, 12:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
crowmadic Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 539	Re: Velocity studies rowuk, Can you suggest some books that focus on Velocity studies?I have Arbans, Clark, Schlossberg, and Chichowicz Flow Studies. Perhaps there's something in one of these books that could be used? Thanks.......crow Last edited by crowmadic; 10-18-2007 at 01:57 PM. Reason: spelling

10-18-2007, 04:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bear Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CO Posts: 804	Re: Velocity studies Hey crowmadic, all the books will work great for velocity. The clark etudes at the end of chapter are great. Every book out there is useful, it's just in how the performer uses them. Peace. __________________ Of what value would it be to make a prosperous living unless you know how to live?! - anon.

10-18-2007, 04:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,360	Re: Velocity studies I use Clarke and St. Jacome __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

10-18-2007, 06:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
cornetguy Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 778	Re: Velocity studies i use all of the above too. vizzutti has some too also look in brandt orchestral etudes there are several in there that can be used too. also velocity studies help with getting you to move air in a never ending stream rather then chopping up note by note. __________________ Per aspera ad astra

10-19-2007, 04:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,360	Re: Velocity studies Crow, I thought about this last night a bit more. I think a very important part of velocity studies is the 120% precision (finger movement being ABSOLUTELY rhythmic and synchronous with the tonguing) required. The trick is not to play as fast as you can, but to stretch the envelope on how fast your precision can still be maintained. A metronome is an absolute must. ANY irregularity means that you need to slow down again. I play these things softly and really bang the valves down (fast transitions between notes). In theory, 30 minutes of velocity studies should not waste your chops (but your fingers will get tired!)! St. Jacome has these things written out with all of the articulation variations. Remember, even although precision is critical to musicality, a well rounded routine will move you forward faster! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

10-19-2007, 07:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
crowmadic Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 539	Re: Velocity studies I appreciate all the recommendations but HOW DO I INDENTIFY A GOOD VELOCITY EXERCISE?.........crow

10-19-2007, 09:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,360	Re: Velocity studies The St Jacome ones are based on scales, series of notes sometimes just covering a 5th (C,D,E,F,G,F,E,D repeated). This pattern can be committed to memory-perfectly. Then we tie two, tongue two and commit that to memory / tie 3, tongue one / tongue one, tie three / tongue all. Each combination requires something a bit different from our motor system. By practicing this stuff in perfect rhythm, we store well prepared patterns for future use. Important for these studies is the limited range and repetition! We want to store tidbits not big chunks. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

10-19-2007, 07:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
crowmadic Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 539	Re: Velocity studies rowuk, Once again...thanks.......crow

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