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Selmer Invicta London ('56)
Olds Recording ('58, '59, '60)
Olds Super ('51, '63, '66, '67, '68, '69)
Olds Standard ('46)
Olds SuperStar ('71, '72)
Olds Studio ('55, '59, '70)
Olds Special ('51, '56, '58, '60, '62,'68,'73)
Olds Ambassador (a few: '49-'79)
Olds Flugelhorn ('70)
(+Eastman, Besson 609 , Conn Director, King Cleveland, Holton Collegiate, Blessing Accord,
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Just out of curiosity, do the flugels with horizontal valve tubing have more, less, or the same degree of difficulty with water evacuation in comparison with the flugels with vertical valve tubes?
I am just wondering whether gravity has any positive or negative effect on water evacuation.
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Flugelhorn = water retention device!
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On a flugel there is no length of leadpipe with a drain on it, and the valves all catch the condensation where on a trumpet it usually collects in the tuning slide. That means they are prone to collecting water as most posters here affirm.
I blow gently (Kanstul 1525) with key open while changing the horn angle, and then rotate the horn to drain the water out the bell as well.
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Something that I have done to all my horns is to have a good tech ream (not drill) out the hole in the Amado water key and the tubing to a larger size. Make sure that they also deburr the inside of the tubing afterwards too. You will be surprised as to how much larger these can be reamed to. This really really makes a big difference. Drains waaaaay better afterwards.
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The info nordlandstrompet passes on is excellent and I'm sure will help a lot of people with amado water key problems. Great post!
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