what do you think about cat anderson method?

croatoa · 03-09-2008, 04:47 PM

I've tried to use it but it's very hard!!!!

tatakata · 03-09-2008, 04:59 PM

i think it probably worked for cat anderson and not many other people

sdhinote · 04-17-2009, 01:18 AM

You might want to go to my webpage. I was a student of Cat's for 8 years and have just re-written his method so it is more understandable and accessable to players desiring a better upper register.

trpt2345 · 04-17-2009, 01:21 AM

I got Cat's book thirty years ago but I found it unusable, sort of like Einstein's Relativity for the Layman. I'm not that curious about the teeth thing.

Michael McLaughlin

SpiritDCI08 · 04-17-2009, 08:50 AM

I've heard he's methods were weird. I'd buy one of his books...but I'd only buy it to read it, not play it. Some people just have weird techiniques that only work for them.

shawverjm · 06-12-2009, 08:58 AM

I got the book about 2 weeks ago and I have found it to be pretty sweet. I haven't even gotten past the first lesson and I have seen in increase in all aspects of my playing. My range was at a good High G now I can find all the slots up to double c. Now I can't get the notes any louder than a mf so they're still not performance quality but just the fact I can now find the pitches is exciting in my opinion.

In addition to range I noticed my intonation was more consistently in tune and a big full tone on my small Allen Vizzutti Yamaha mouthpiece.

I've tried out many different methods and this one is definitely helping me the most so far.

teeth closed thing, its weird at first which Geoff says happens, but it shows us how our body needs to be aligned in order to produce the g overtone which directly effects how our body needs to be aligned when playing with our normal embouchure.

Maybe if you give it a few weeks you'll get the hang of it.

With how much improvement I've seen in my playing just after 2 weeks, I believe I'll stick to this method and continue seeing lots of improvement

gbdeamer · 06-12-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shawverjm

teeth closed thing, its weird at first which Geoff says happens, but it shows us how our body needs to be aligned in order to produce the g overtone which directly effects how our body needs to be aligned when playing with our normal embouchure.

Yeah, that sounds very strange. Obviously there's more detail, but playing with my teeth closed would seem to restrict my airflow a bit...

rowuk · 06-12-2009, 02:29 PM

I don't. It probably works for some people, but is too esoteric and too far away from the reality of my playing.

I like standard stuff. A well balanced diet of long tones, slurs, tunes and technical stuff with TUNES being the core of my playing and teaching!

sdhinote · 06-18-2009, 03:01 PM

Just to clear up a few myths and misconceptions about a couple of things, here...
First and formost, Cat's method is a PRACTICE method to build range, and I try to make that very clear in my book. It is not intended as a way to play (i.e, teeth closed, etc.). Cat did not play that way, he practiced that way. I still recommend you do your regular technical, flexes, tunes, etc., but just incorporate this method into your routine. You will become a much stronger player with less fatigue.

As to not getting any air through exercises with the teeth touching, I have yet to meet anyone who's dental makeup is so perfect that they can't get air through the horn (you'd have to have rubber gaskets on each tooth). We are not dealing with a "clamped" jaw here, just a very gentle way to keep and retrain your jaw forward.

I have only had a handful of people who've bought this book who have had any problems, and usually their problems come from not reading the text first (which is essential) and just diving into the exercises. Most of the time, we get things cleared up in two emails.

I am happy to say that I have several pros (who are listed on my site), including the great Arturo Sandoval, who have started incorporating at least a part of this book into their daily routines. Try it before you knock it, please.

RobertSlotte · 06-18-2009, 03:16 PM

sdhinote,

Could you tell us why or shal we say the philosophy behind the teeth closed way of practising? I mean, why would that be more effective? Asking of interest not as critisism.

03-09-2008, 04:47 PM	#1
croatoa New Friend Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 16	what do you think about cat anderson method? I've tried to use it but it's very hard!!!!

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tatakata Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 959	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? i think it probably worked for cat anderson and not many other people __________________

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sdhinote Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 78	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? You might want to go to my webpage. I was a student of Cat's for 8 years and have just re-written his method so it is more understandable and accessable to players desiring a better upper register. __________________ Geoff Winstead Author of The Real Way to Play the Cat Anderson Trumpet Method - A Step by Step Approach to the Upper Register www.therealcatandersonmethod.com Yamaha 6310ZS Shew Conn Connstellation 38B FoKus Artist Model 10.5

04-17-2009, 01:21 AM	#4
trpt2345 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 806	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? I got Cat's book thirty years ago but I found it unusable, sort of like Einstein's Relativity for the Layman. I'm not that curious about the teeth thing. Michael McLaughlin __________________ Chicago MM

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SpiritDCI08 Piano User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 322	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? I've heard he's methods were weird. I'd buy one of his books...but I'd only buy it to read it, not play it. Some people just have weird techiniques that only work for them. __________________ King Model 601 (my favorite horn so far) Vincent Bach 3c and 5c ------------------------------------------------ Spirit Drum and Bugle Corps 08, 09 Choctawhatchee Stylemarchers 07,08 ROLL TIDE!!! "The Blue Devils could run out on the field, take a dump on the 50, flick off the judges and still get a 95" -- Alex Blue

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shawverjm New Friend Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? I got the book about 2 weeks ago and I have found it to be pretty sweet. I haven't even gotten past the first lesson and I have seen in increase in all aspects of my playing. My range was at a good High G now I can find all the slots up to double c. Now I can't get the notes any louder than a mf so they're still not performance quality but just the fact I can now find the pitches is exciting in my opinion. In addition to range I noticed my intonation was more consistently in tune and a big full tone on my small Allen Vizzutti Yamaha mouthpiece. I've tried out many different methods and this one is definitely helping me the most so far. teeth closed thing, its weird at first which Geoff says happens, but it shows us how our body needs to be aligned in order to produce the g overtone which directly effects how our body needs to be aligned when playing with our normal embouchure. Maybe if you give it a few weeks you'll get the hang of it. With how much improvement I've seen in my playing just after 2 weeks, I believe I'll stick to this method and continue seeing lots of improvement

06-12-2009, 02:29 PM	#8
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,355	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? I don't. It probably works for some people, but is too esoteric and too far away from the reality of my playing. I like standard stuff. A well balanced diet of long tones, slurs, tunes and technical stuff with TUNES being the core of my playing and teaching! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

06-18-2009, 03:01 PM	#9
sdhinote Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 78	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? Just to clear up a few myths and misconceptions about a couple of things, here... First and formost, Cat's method is a PRACTICE method to build range, and I try to make that very clear in my book. It is not intended as a way to play (i.e, teeth closed, etc.). Cat did not play that way, he practiced that way. I still recommend you do your regular technical, flexes, tunes, etc., but just incorporate this method into your routine. You will become a much stronger player with less fatigue. As to not getting any air through exercises with the teeth touching, I have yet to meet anyone who's dental makeup is so perfect that they can't get air through the horn (you'd have to have rubber gaskets on each tooth). We are not dealing with a "clamped" jaw here, just a very gentle way to keep and retrain your jaw forward. I have only had a handful of people who've bought this book who have had any problems, and usually their problems come from not reading the text first (which is essential) and just diving into the exercises. Most of the time, we get things cleared up in two emails. I am happy to say that I have several pros (who are listed on my site), including the great Arturo Sandoval, who have started incorporating at least a part of this book into their daily routines. Try it before you knock it, please. __________________ Geoff Winstead Author of The Real Way to Play the Cat Anderson Trumpet Method - A Step by Step Approach to the Upper Register www.therealcatandersonmethod.com Yamaha 6310ZS Shew Conn Connstellation 38B FoKus Artist Model 10.5

06-18-2009, 03:16 PM	#10
RobertSlotte Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 205	Re: what do you think about cat anderson method? sdhinote, Could you tell us why or shal we say the philosophy behind the teeth closed way of practising? I mean, why would that be more effective? Asking of interest not as critisism. __________________ THE TRUMPETS SHALL SOUND! Robert Slotte Bach Model 43 Bb Yamaha 8310z Bb B&S Eb-Trumpet B&S D-Trumpet Gezen A/B piccolo Last edited by RobertSlotte; 06-18-2009 at 03:18 PM.

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