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    What tactic is this?

    No Idea on how I should name the title, but I have searched around a little.
    In the video JM makes a shaky tone on even low notes. I heard from youtube that you need to play really high notes and go from two different notes (Lip Trill) But with the low notes JM played at some parts it seemed he doesn't change notes.

    Either way maybe a valid name of the tactic used or some useful tips would be great, thanks.

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    Re: What tactic is this?

    Mr Morrison uses many different techniques.
    The Lip trill up High at the start.
    and there is a growl low down. - at the start of the Basin Street intro, and again growl a few more times. Maybe that is what you are referring to at the Low Down notes.
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    Re: What tactic is this?

    The most amazing part of that video to me is just how big and fat of a tone James Morrison produces .. he's outside and every note he plays is just "HERE I AM " ... that cat is something else.
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    Re: What tactic is this?

    Thanks for posting the link Chris. I just love it when JM brings his massive talents to this flavour of jazz. Can you believe it? The venue is in my home town and I didn't know about their Sunday session!
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    Re: What tactic is this?

    Thanks I found what I was looking for!

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    Re: What tactic is this?

    Essentially it sounds like a wide vibrato - say playing E just above middle C, and "bending" the note down towards D using his lips. Then doing it backwards and forwards from E to D to E to D to E, etc. rather fast.

    The technique is slightly different when you get up high, but the concept is the same, bending the note down and up, except that on a high lip trill it is often possible with just the tongue doing the movement, rather than the lips. In this case the "thought" of the tongue position is AHHH - EEEEH - AHHH (but obviously very much faster than you were reading it!). The difference in actual notes between the top of the range and bottom of the range is that if you were to play C two octaves above middle C (commonly called top-C for beginner players), the Bb just below it, and the D just above it are both playable on open fingering (they are all partials, or harmonics), so if you slide up to the D, then back down to C, the note comes out cleanly when you hit the centre of each "slot", or harmonic. This is how a lip trill on a high note sounds "clean", like each note is properly played. Down low, the next harmonic above bottom C, for example, is G in the stave. There is no open-fingered note between the two, so when you lip up to G and down to C, it only "slots" on G or C. Everything in between is a bit forced. So vibrato on these low notes is a bit like a trill without using fingering to change the note.

    I hope that makes sense. I confused myself just reading it back haha!
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    Re: What tactic is this?

    He does a flutter tongue on the low notes.
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