Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
I'm far from a High school student and when I first signed up for weekly lessons I had an older retired band director that played piano (also professional piano tuner) and taught trumpet and was a trumpet player before physical limitations affected his ability to play.. he was great for fundamentals and a lot of classical teaching such as going through caruso exercises, irons, working on various songs, getting the proper rhythm / timing, and numerous other things.... but he was driving too far for the economy and stopped teaching at my local music store and I picked up with a young guy (musically trained with NYU and also does professional gigs although he can't touch the level of my once a month pro guy that has been doing it professionally as long as I have been alive at that is well over 30 years)... This new young guy has been good for getting me on the scene to watch him perform in some live venues and start working on some jazz methods, etc. but somewhat got away from the fundamentals... although touching base with the local Pro put me right back on some of the Irons, Arbans, etc. and also required that I learn all 12 major keys in order to move farther and I have now done that!...
So I sometimes recently consider whether or not to just touch base once a month with the "real" pro player who is freaking amazing player and teacher, and drop the once a week thing or keep both... I suppose the only reason to drop the once a week would be in the interest of money although I would probably find something else to blow the money on.
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Seems to me you need a teacher when you are a beginner, and a coach when you are advanced.
And it also depends on what your goals are. My goal is to privately play through and master the beginner's method book I started when I was a kid. Since I've already had a teacher when I began that book, I'm pretty much alright for now.
Plus, I could really put that money towards some better, or at least better repaired gear.
Once I'm ready to take it to the next level, an am better equipped, I will evaluate my needs.
And for someone who wants to go pro, and take it to a truly world-class level, a coach is definitely a necessity.
And, one doesn't have to have a coach that is better than her/him. Look at how many great athletes have coaches and trainers who could not perform at the level of the athlete, and how many how many great performers make lousy teachers.
...Another reason to have a teacher/coach, is to help manage one's direction. They can better prepare one for public performance. They know whether propel you into the next level, or allow you to mature before proceeding.
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When did I stop needing lessons?
Probably about the the I was getting more paid gigs than my own trumpet teacher was. Circa 1975 - 76. I still wasn't that good of a player but the paid gigs brought another element into the equation. More helpful than those awful (and boringly unmusical) Concone Studies did. Like how to project through night club band music with an unamplified instrument. A useful skill.
They don't teach that at the Conservatory...
Last edited by Local 357; 12-16-2011 at 09:24 AM.
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If "good enough" is your goal, then I guess whatever you can get away with is adequate. If not, then there is some soul searching to do. There were times in my life where a vocal coach worked with me, then a Yoga teacher, then other disciplines. I guess that I have been lucky that even the weakest of my teachers has been able to help me, even if I did some stuff better.
Money NEVER has anything to do with it. If both parties have a higher goal, the economics get solved.
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
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