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11-12-2008, 12:45 PM
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| Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scotland
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 | Another Brandenburg recording
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11-12-2008, 02:40 PM
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 | Re: Another Brandenburg recording Great video... amazing old recording... However, to correct one (or two) thing(s); The scholar within me feels I gotta throw this out there... I posted this under the video @ YouTube as well. This concerto was not written with Gottfried Reiche in mind, actually. The Brandenburg Concerti were presented to the Margrave of Brandenburg in 1721 - Some even question whether they were intended to be performed or just intended as 'gifts'. Furthermore, some scholars now are contending that the F Tromba would be somewhere around modern pitch D. Also - back to Reiche - Bach, didn't meet Reiche until he after he moved to Leipzig, which at it's EARLIEST could have been 1724.
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11-12-2008, 04:45 PM
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| Re: Another Brandenburg recording yep, that was my error. The thought did go through my head but I was busy trying to find a picture of the trumpet player with no success.
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02-13-2009, 11:32 PM
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02-14-2009, 03:06 AM
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| Re: Another Brandenburg recording If Baroque pitch was A=415 then a baroque trumpet in F would be closer to our pitch of E. However the pitch varied from area to area so its hard to say.
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02-14-2009, 06:35 AM
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 | Re: Another Brandenburg recording Jean François Madeuf had finished the recording of Brandembourg 2nd on a Haas 1710 replica trumpet in F 415Hz (E at A=440). Incredible...
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02-14-2009, 06:39 AM
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| Re: Another Brandenburg recording Quote:
Also, is very remarkable the great difference between German and English music for trumpet on that period... What the Germans had for breakfast ??? BEST !!!
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02-14-2009, 10:50 AM
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 | Re: Another Brandenburg recording Nice find Gordon. Thank you for posting! |
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02-15-2009, 11:54 AM
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| Moderator Utimate User  Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany
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| Re: Another Brandenburg recording Paul Spörri (born 1909) was the solo trumpet with the Berlin Philharmonic back in the 20's. Notice the staccato, lack of vibrato I think Bach wrote it in this key to keep the weak away from it. Seriously, Bach picked the keys for his works based on their purpose. That is why the Christmas Oratorio, B-minor Mass, Easter Oratorio and other festive works use D-Trumpets for instance. F major has some significance that I can't remember. Concert pitch was all over the place in the baroque era. The instruments back then were built a bit high on the pitch and used inserts to tune. The originals that I have seen and played are in fact about one half step lower than concert pitch today.
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