Bach Suite # 3

abbedd · 05-29-2008, 07:05 PM

Can this be played on a Bb?

In 1947 and 1948 NBC played this under Toscanini and Ansermet. Would Glantz have played this on his Bb. Would he move down to third and allow Ray Crisara to play the first part on a smaller trumpet? Would NBC have brought in a staff player?

The playing on the Ansermet broadcast is indeed superb

Abbedd

bachstrad72 · 05-29-2008, 07:11 PM

I have the Marlboro recording under Casals. Perhaps Mr. Wise could shed some light on the equipment used there.

wiseone2 · 05-29-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abbedd

Can this be played on a Bb?

In 1947 and 1948 NBC played this under Toscanini and Ansermet. Would Glantz have played this on his Bb. Would he move down to third and allow Ray Crisara to play the first part on a smaller trumpet? Would NBC have brought in a staff player?

The playing on the Ansermet broadcast is indeed superb

Abbedd

You can play the Bach Suite on a Bb trumpet, but I wouldn't want to. Players in the 40s had access to decent D trumpets. Caston played on Bach trumpets. I own one of his high trumpets. There also were Bessons around that were very good.
I can't imagine Glantz not playing the part.
Wilmer

abbedd · 05-29-2008, 08:24 PM

Thanks Wilmer

Abbedd

ecarroll · 05-29-2008, 08:25 PM

Wilmer,

I played the 3rd Suite as part of the soundtrack for an early 80s comedy film called "A Little Sex" (no jokes from my wife, please). Steve Burns played 2nd and Jimmy Maxwell, of all people, played 3rd (on his Bb). It was an unusual sounding rendition. :)

Best,
EC

abbedd · 05-29-2008, 09:07 PM

Bach Suite #3 NBC Ansermet 1948.zip

Here is the Ansermet mentioned
NBC Sym
1948 Live
8-H

Should be

Harry Glantz
Frank Falcone
Ray Crisara

Enjoy

Abbedd

wiseone2 · 05-29-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecarroll

Wilmer,

I played the 3rd Suite as part of the soundtrack for an early 80s comedy film called "A Little Sex" (no jokes from my wife, please). Steve Burns played 2nd and Jimmy Maxwell, of all people, played 3rd (on his Bb). It was an unusual sounding rendition. :)

Best,
EC

I played part of the last movement of the Purcell Sonata and some other Purcell stuff in "Kramer vs. Kramer"
Ed.................... we do get some odd gigs

Wilmer

ecarroll · 05-29-2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiseone2

Ed.................... we do get some odd gigs

Wilmer

Which, as I remember, was half the fun. . .

Pax,
EC

Vulgano Brother · 05-29-2008, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecarroll

Wilmer,

I played the 3rd Suite as part of the soundtrack for an early 80s comedy film called "A Little Sex" (no jokes from my wife, please). Steve Burns played 2nd and Jimmy Maxwell, of all people, played 3rd (on his Bb).

Nothing unusual there--the inversion of "a little sex" would be a major third, wouldn't it?

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abbedd Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 133	Re: Bach Suite # 3 Thanks Wilmer Abbedd

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ecarroll Artist in Residence Forte User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NH/CA/PQ Posts: 1,560	Re: Bach Suite # 3 Wilmer, I played the 3rd Suite as part of the soundtrack for an early 80s comedy film called "A Little Sex" (no jokes from my wife, please). Steve Burns played 2nd and Jimmy Maxwell, of all people, played 3rd (on his Bb). It was an unusual sounding rendition. :) Best, EC

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abbedd Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 133	Re: Bach Suite # 3 Bach Suite #3 NBC Ansermet 1948.zip Here is the Ansermet mentioned NBC Sym 1948 Live 8-H Should be Harry Glantz Frank Falcone Ray Crisara Enjoy Abbedd

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