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Old 03-10-2008, 10:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Chaconne?

My school's band is playing First Suite for Military band in E-flat for sit-down band contests. The first part (and only part we're playing) is entitled "Chaconne." As an extra challenge, my director wants us to find out what the word "Chaconne" actually means. I did a bit of research, and he said none of the answers I came out with were correct. Any of you smart peoples know?
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Chaconne?

I had a discussion about this with some friends a few weeks ago. I thought Chaconne was like a passacaglia--a kind of theme and variations with the theme originating in the bass, just like the first movement of the Suite in E-flat.

Enjoy this piece--it's one of the greatest pieces you will ever play, orchestra rep included.

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Old 03-11-2008, 02:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Chaconne?

If I remember my theory correctly, a Chaconne is a repeated melodic or harmonic progression in the bass over which a series of variations is made. A Passacaglia involves the same melodic pattern being repeated continuously, with or without variations going on around it.

The Holst Chaconne and Brahms' 4th Symphony (4th Mvt) are chaconnes because although the harmony remains the same, you don't have one melodic pattern being repeated precisely over & over. Bach's Passacaglia & Fugue in C minor, however, has the exact same 8-bar melody repeated over & over, with other stuff added around it.

Apparently the line between them is so close that even composers (not the ones listed here) sometimes "confuse" them when naming pieces.

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Old 03-11-2008, 02:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Chaconne?

hahaha My teacher Gary Wilburn joked about chaconne alot... He often called it Chacacone, which is a dance, or a song. So he would always just start dancing when he said it. Thats a fun song by the way. Do you have the solo cornet part?
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Chaconne?

If you check the Harvard Dictionary of Music you will learn more than you want to know about a Chaconne. I would think you could find one in a good library. Upon checking the dictionary myself which gives a rather long definition none of the above are wrong. When in doubt check the library.
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Chaconne?

That is great song! Really features the solo trumpet =)

My teacher always said it was a dance...
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Re: Chaconne?

Great explanation here Chaconne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But, as a personal view, one of the best written concert band movements in one if the best concert band pieces ever!!

But that's just my view ;)

Also check this site First Suite in Eb
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Re: Chaconne?

Somebody post a Utube clip or a sound file.
I am pretty sure I played it but can't recall the tune.
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Re: Chaconne?

I thought it was spanish for testicles.

You know, "He must have pretty big chaconees to audition for that part."

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