Dma

JStrube · 12-02-2006, 08:00 AM

I didn't know if this was the right place for this, but since I'm more interested in the orchestral and solo aspect of the trumpet, I posted this here. I'm looking with a school for a good DMA program. I have already applied to some of the bigger name schools, but now I'm looking for a smaller less known school or two with a great trumpet professor. My idea is to apply to 2-3 large programs and 1-2 smaller ones to determine which type of program would suit me best.

swissdude · 12-02-2006, 09:15 AM

what schools did you apply so far?

robertwhite · 12-02-2006, 09:35 AM

If I were starting my DMA again, I'd look at curricula and how streamlined they are. Some schools (like Indiana, where mine is from) are very rigorous academically and take a LONG time to complete. Others (SUNY Stony Brook springs to mind) have a very streamlined program that one can complete in a more concentrated period.

swissdude · 12-02-2006, 10:30 AM

also schools where you will have to do a dissertation/project versus a lecture recital.

JStrube · 12-02-2006, 11:14 AM

swissdude,
I have applied at Maryland and am working on applying for Miami. I am in the process of determining one more major school, and am still deciding between a couple.

swissdude · 12-02-2006, 11:36 AM

Gekker is a great professor. Maryland is definitely a good choice.
Arizona is very good with David Hickman...not because I went there but he does a wonderful job at teaching you all the solo rep, and having Sam Pilafian there is awsome for chamber music.
IU is also great but very long

Robert can tell you more about that one.
North Texas has a good program and I believe that they are not required to do a dissertation but I might be wrong about this.
There is one in Georgia that is good, Rutgers, SUNY.

What is your goal in the futur? teach at the college level or play in an orchestra? or both

JStrube · 12-02-2006, 12:18 PM

I am interested in both performing and teaching, therefore the DMA. I am the most concerned with the trumpet Professor at the schools, slightly less about the program itself.

Hags888 · 12-03-2006, 04:37 PM

I am in the DMA program at the University of Minnesota right now (David Baldwin and Gary Bordner). My advice is to consider the following:

1. How many graduates from the schools you are considering have gone on to get jobs?

2. What kind of opportunities and experience can you gain while in school? (aka, is the school located in the middle of nowhere or will you have an opportunity for playing and teaching outside of school)?

3. How much are you willing to tackle academically vs performance? Some schools require you play in school of music ensembles, take a heavy course load, do a recital every semester, etc.

4. Who do you want to study with? Do you want an orchestral player, chamber player, soloist, commercial player, etc? Every professor has their "niche". You should find a teacher that you can click with and who can improve your playing. So, you should schedule lessons with the professors outside of the audition and try to get to know them the best you can.

5. Lastly, consider the cost and finances. If you get accepted at a top-notch school with no financial support, are you really willing to go 50-60K in the hole just to go there?? It will take a lifetime to pay off loans in the music profession (especially if you have loans from previous degrees). If you can get a quality education with a great teacher at a smaller school where students have found success, I would not rule it out.

Here are some schools I would consider:

University of Minnesota
Stonybrook
Boston University
Manhattan School of Music
USC
Rice University

Good Luck!

tpetplyr · 12-03-2006, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissdude

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There is one in Georgia that is good, Rutgers, SUNY.
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I'm looking at Master's programs, and live in GA. I was wondering if you could clarify this, I did a google search, and it looked like Rutgers SUNY was in NY/NJ.

Stuart

joey · 12-04-2006, 08:22 AM

Stuart,

I think the intent was to name 3 schools:

one in Georgia

Rutgers, which is in New Jersey

and SUNY, which stands for State University of New York, and is actually quite a few schools, some of which have very good music schools.

Joey

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JStrube New Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Milwaukee,WI Posts: 15	Dma I didn't know if this was the right place for this, but since I'm more interested in the orchestral and solo aspect of the trumpet, I posted this here. I'm looking with a school for a good DMA program. I have already applied to some of the bigger name schools, but now I'm looking for a smaller less known school or two with a great trumpet professor. My idea is to apply to 2-3 large programs and 1-2 smaller ones to determine which type of program would suit me best. __________________ Jim Strube

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JStrube New Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Milwaukee,WI Posts: 15	swissdude, I have applied at Maryland and am working on applying for Miami. I am in the process of determining one more major school, and am still deciding between a couple. __________________ Jim Strube

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JStrube New Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Milwaukee,WI Posts: 15	I am interested in both performing and teaching, therefore the DMA. I am the most concerned with the trumpet Professor at the schools, slightly less about the program itself. __________________ Jim Strube

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Hags888 Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 141	I am in the DMA program at the University of Minnesota right now (David Baldwin and Gary Bordner). My advice is to consider the following: 1. How many graduates from the schools you are considering have gone on to get jobs? 2. What kind of opportunities and experience can you gain while in school? (aka, is the school located in the middle of nowhere or will you have an opportunity for playing and teaching outside of school)? 3. How much are you willing to tackle academically vs performance? Some schools require you play in school of music ensembles, take a heavy course load, do a recital every semester, etc. 4. Who do you want to study with? Do you want an orchestral player, chamber player, soloist, commercial player, etc? Every professor has their "niche". You should find a teacher that you can click with and who can improve your playing. So, you should schedule lessons with the professors outside of the audition and try to get to know them the best you can. 5. Lastly, consider the cost and finances. If you get accepted at a top-notch school with no financial support, are you really willing to go 50-60K in the hole just to go there?? It will take a lifetime to pay off loans in the music profession (especially if you have loans from previous degrees). If you can get a quality education with a great teacher at a smaller school where students have found success, I would not rule it out. Here are some schools I would consider: University of Minnesota Stonybrook Boston University Manhattan School of Music USC Rice University Good Luck! __________________ Do or do not. There is no try. http://www.scotthagarty.com

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12-02-2006, 09:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
swissdude Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 146	what schools did you apply so far?

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robertwhite Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 475	If I were starting my DMA again, I'd look at curricula and how streamlined they are. Some schools (like Indiana, where mine is from) are very rigorous academically and take a LONG time to complete. Others (SUNY Stony Brook springs to mind) have a very streamlined program that one can complete in a more concentrated period.

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swissdude Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 146	also schools where you will have to do a dissertation/project versus a lecture recital.

12-02-2006, 11:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
swissdude Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 146	Gekker is a great professor. Maryland is definitely a good choice. Arizona is very good with David Hickman...not because I went there but he does a wonderful job at teaching you all the solo rep, and having Sam Pilafian there is awsome for chamber music. IU is also great but very long Robert can tell you more about that one. North Texas has a good program and I believe that they are not required to do a dissertation but I might be wrong about this. There is one in Georgia that is good, Rutgers, SUNY. What is your goal in the futur? teach at the college level or play in an orchestra? or both

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joey Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bloomington Posts: 70	Stuart, I think the intent was to name 3 schools: one in Georgia Rutgers, which is in New Jersey and SUNY, which stands for State University of New York, and is actually quite a few schools, some of which have very good music schools. Joey

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