excerpts and mutes

trumpethack · 12-27-2006, 05:33 PM

Hi Manny,

I was wondering if you could share what mutes you use for some of the standard "mute" excerpts. Specifically Fetes and Shosti' Piano concerto. If any others jump to mind that you'd like to mention that'd be great too. Thanks.

Matt

trumpetnick · 12-28-2006, 05:32 AM

TH,

I am not Manny and he will surely pup up in this forum...Don't play often the Fetes but I when I do use the trumcore lyrical mute which is great for that kind of music. I am not sure how popular this mute may be in the states, but I found that the intonation is very good, and the sound is close to perfect. I imagine than AMR wooden mutes can be used instead with great succes. I never played Schosti' Piano concerto. Manny?

trumpetmike · 12-28-2006, 06:39 AM

Have you seen the Sotto Voce mute (available from www.hickmanmusiceditions.com) - to quote from the website
Designed by David Hickman and Eric Baker, the new Sotto Voce straight mute is perfect for soft passages such as Enesco's LEGEND, Copland's QUIET CITY, Shostakovich's PIANO CONCERTO NO. 1, SYMPHONY NO. 1, Debussy's FETES, and hundreds of other works.

I have had one of these since they came out - I have only used it a couple of times, but when you are looking for that sort of mute, you want one.

Was doing Chichester Psalms a few weeks ago and the 1st trumpet borrowed it for the ending - he then ordered one himself.

Manny Laureano · 12-28-2006, 08:36 AM

The fact is we have so many mutes (you really wouldn't believe it if you saw our mute self... I'm not exaggerating when I say there are over a hundred mutes of varying types and sounds) that I use different mutes for the same pieces.

I have some favorites, though. For soft playing we have Hickman's mute and we have these wooden mutes made in Köln. Rick Giangiulio's TrumCor mutes are excellent for many differnt types of playing and play extremely well in tune as do the METAL Marcus Bona mutes. I very much dislike the fiberglass ones.

We also have some Turkish (I think) mutes that look as though they're made of hardened twine that were wrapped around some mute form that are also excellent.

On and on. Make your own choice based on color and intonation.

ML

cornetguy · 12-28-2006, 08:43 AM

For Shostakovich, I saw Grant Park do it about 10 years ago, and Brian Perry used the Bach Plastic. I think Gary Bordner was using a Montreal mute when I saw the SPCO do it a year or so ago. (I assume you are asking about the slow movement solo) Otherwise I second Manny's advise.

Vulgano Brother · 12-28-2006, 02:59 PM

Check out the Fetes - Mute Choice? (

1 (Fetes - Mute Choice?) 2 (Fetes - Mute Choice?)) thread for more information on this subject.

screaminhigh911 · 12-31-2006, 09:39 PM

Hey Manny,

On the subject of mutes and different pieces, what do you use for the Arutunian Concerto? I have had trouble finding a mute that I like for this piece that combines sound, projection, and ease of playing.

Thanks,
Ethan

trumpetnick · 01-01-2007, 10:06 AM

Manny and folks,
Has anyone ever tried the Trumcore Straight Mute for Piccolo? The site is saying that it has been designed for stuff like Pertushka and and the Pictures and sound quite interesting...
https://www.trumcor.com/shop?product...=Trumpet+Mutes

robertwhite · 01-01-2007, 11:03 AM

I really like the Trumcor Picc straight mute. It feels really open and even to me, and is very loud and metallic sounding.

Manny Laureano · 01-01-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screaminhigh911

Hey Manny,

On the subject of mutes and different pieces, what do you use for the Arutunian Concerto? I have had trouble finding a mute that I like for this piece that combines sound, projection, and ease of playing.

Thanks,
Ethan

I prefer a cup mute for that section, Ethan. It needs to be a sweet sound.

ML

12-27-2006, 05:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
trumpethack Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 65	excerpts and mutes Hi Manny, I was wondering if you could share what mutes you use for some of the standard "mute" excerpts. Specifically Fetes and Shosti' Piano concerto. If any others jump to mind that you'd like to mention that'd be great too. Thanks. Matt

12-28-2006, 05:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
trumpetnick Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Brand: Spada Posts: 773	Re: excerpts and mutes TH, I am not Manny and he will surely pup up in this forum...Don't play often the Fetes but I when I do use the trumcore lyrical mute which is great for that kind of music. I am not sure how popular this mute may be in the states, but I found that the intonation is very good, and the sound is close to perfect. I imagine than AMR wooden mutes can be used instead with great succes. I never played Schosti' Piano concerto. Manny?
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12-28-2006, 06:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
trumpetmike Forte User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Farnham (a place too smal Brand: Whatever works Posts: 1,202	Re: excerpts and mutes Have you seen the Sotto Voce mute (available from www.hickmanmusiceditions.com) - to quote from the website Designed by David Hickman and Eric Baker, the new Sotto Voce straight mute is perfect for soft passages such as Enesco's LEGEND, Copland's QUIET CITY, Shostakovich's PIANO CONCERTO NO. 1, SYMPHONY NO. 1, Debussy's FETES, and hundreds of other works. I have had one of these since they came out - I have only used it a couple of times, but when you are looking for that sort of mute, you want one. Was doing Chichester Psalms a few weeks ago and the 1st trumpet borrowed it for the ending - he then ordered one himself.

12-28-2006, 08:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	Re: excerpts and mutes The fact is we have so many mutes (you really wouldn't believe it if you saw our mute self... I'm not exaggerating when I say there are over a hundred mutes of varying types and sounds) that I use different mutes for the same pieces. I have some favorites, though. For soft playing we have Hickman's mute and we have these wooden mutes made in Köln. Rick Giangiulio's TrumCor mutes are excellent for many differnt types of playing and play extremely well in tune as do the METAL Marcus Bona mutes. I very much dislike the fiberglass ones. We also have some Turkish (I think) mutes that look as though they're made of hardened twine that were wrapped around some mute form that are also excellent. On and on. Make your own choice based on color and intonation. ML

12-28-2006, 08:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
cornetguy Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Brand: Yamaha, Bach, Getzen Posts: 726	Re: excerpts and mutes For Shostakovich, I saw Grant Park do it about 10 years ago, and Brian Perry used the Bach Plastic. I think Gary Bordner was using a Montreal mute when I saw the SPCO do it a year or so ago. (I assume you are asking about the slow movement solo) Otherwise I second Manny's advise.
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12-28-2006, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 2,917	Re: excerpts and mutes Check out the Fetes - Mute Choice? ( 1 (Fetes - Mute Choice?) 2 (Fetes - Mute Choice?)) thread for more information on this subject.
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12-31-2006, 09:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
screaminhigh911 New Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, Washington Brand: Bach, Monette Posts: 5	Re: excerpts and mutes Hey Manny, On the subject of mutes and different pieces, what do you use for the Arutunian Concerto? I have had trouble finding a mute that I like for this piece that combines sound, projection, and ease of playing. Thanks, Ethan
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01-01-2007, 10:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
trumpetnick Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Brand: Spada Posts: 773	Re: excerpts and mutes Manny and folks, Has anyone ever tried the Trumcore Straight Mute for Piccolo? The site is saying that it has been designed for stuff like Pertushka and and the Pictures and sound quite interesting... https://www.trumcor.com/shop?product...=Trumpet+Mutes
	__________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 2b6, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

01-01-2007, 11:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
robertwhite Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 472	Re: excerpts and mutes I really like the Trumcor Picc straight mute. It feels really open and even to me, and is very loud and metallic sounding.

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