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Old 01-09-2008, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

Mr. Hooten,

I have been asked to play the cornet part to Un Bal in school orchestra. How should I stylistically approach this? From listening to a recording, it seems to be approached as a solo part. Is that how I should approach it also?

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Old 01-11-2008, 01:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

Hi,
Thanks for the question. We are actually playing that piece this week here in Atlanta. Unfortunately, we are playing the version without the cornetto part.
I would approach this with a cornet stlye where you can.
There will be times when you will probably have to play a little heavier to be heard in the tutti sections.

Here is a link that can give you some history of cornets in the music of Berlioz.
Early History 7

Look towards the end of the article.
Good luck and have fun!!!

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Re: Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

Here's the part, it's a lot of fun to play.
http://www.orchestralibrary.com/Acro...Fan-cornet.pdf
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Re: Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

A little mental imagery might help: pretend you're a violin and imkagine you're cinderella dancing a waltz at the grand ball.

Should think a light lyrical approach would serve you well.

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Re: Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

Tom:
Heard the Symphonie Fantastique tonight, AWESOME. The brass section was rocking and the Eb clarinet solo... I do love that piece, this was the first time I've gotten to hear it live. Too bad you didn't do the cornet part, did Runnicles say why?

The Adams piece was pretty cool too, I liked it. Some nice trumpet licks for you there too, how'd you like it? Are you generally a fan of more modern stuff or not?
And the Ravel Left Hand Concerto was very cool: the soloist was awesome. Humbling that he's two years younger than me. Oh well, I'll go practice more!

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Re: Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

Stuart,

Thanks for coming to the concert. It would have been fun to play the coronetto part, Runnicles did not say why didn't want it. I would assume because it was not in the original.
The Adams piece "My Father Knew Charles Ives", has a hell of a trumpet part. Its one of those pieces that could really get under your skin if you don't keep up on really soft controlled high playing.
I do enjoy a good bit of the contemporary stuff we do. However, I would say its a mixed bag. I always try to do my best to convey what the composer has in mind.
Thanks Stuart and I'll see you soon

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Re: Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

Does anyone know why the part is labeled "cornetto"? I can't help but think of the Renaissance cornetto. Obviously the part wasn't written for that instrument (it died out well before Berlioz time). But, typically the term cornetto was used in Italy during the Renaissance and Baroque to mean the hybrid woodwind/brass instrument (called Cornett in England, Zink in Germany, etc). Does anyone have any additional insight as to why the part says cornetto instead of cornet?
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Re: Help with the Cornetto part for Un Bal from Symphonie fantastique

Probably is Italian, hence the trumpet parts being labeled "Tromba".

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