Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history...

DubbaCTrumpetMSU · 04-23-2007, 09:09 PM

I am currently trying to find resources for a paper about Hindemith and his trumpet sonata. Does anyone know of any books, or websites that discuss an analysis of the piece(I only need the first movement), information on the history of the piece, the history of the composer...what inspired the piece(or a dedication) etc...stuff like that. I have found a FEW resources, but they are mainly on Hindemith himself, and nothing in-depth about this piece.

Thanks!

Russ

Pedal C · 04-23-2007, 09:24 PM

I could be remembering wrong, but I think there's a pretty good article about it in an ITG...if you have the CD-ROM thing, it's on there. I needed it for my comps last year. THere's a chance that I'm mixing up where I found it with some other article, but I think it was the ITG. If I can find mine, I'll check, but I moved recently...you know how it is. Hope this helps.

Jason.

DubbaCTrumpetMSU · 04-23-2007, 09:29 PM

Hey, Thanks for the info-I'll have to see if my teacher has got it-I don't yet, i still have to pay my dues and join. :)

MahlerBrass · 04-23-2007, 10:19 PM

The first place to check is the New Grove Dictionary, I found tons of info on this piece, it actually has a lot of background to it, it's the musicologist in me = )

rowuk · 04-27-2007, 03:28 PM

Another good place to look is on the liner notes of the recordings of this piece.
I think sometimes it would have been great if the performers had read the liner notes before recording the piece too..........
Groves is always my first stop, then Wikipedia. I also have an 86 year old german trumpet teacher when I am in doubt!

DubbaCTrumpetMSU · 04-28-2007, 09:33 AM

Very nice, thanks Rowuk-does anyone happen to have a copy of the part and the piano part that they could PDF to me?
Also, MahlerBrass, I found a lot of info on Grove's online..about Hindemith-however, I didn't find much about that specific piece on there at all. Anyway, thanks...

Russ

rowuk · 05-01-2007, 08:22 AM

DubbaC,
as Hindemith emigrated to the US in 1940 and taught at Yale, you will probably find quite a bit there. You may also want to write Schott (the publisher) for more information (http://www.schott-music.com).
There is plenty of stuff in German on the net but that probably does not help you much!

Here are a couple of links in english that I have collected over time:

allmusic ((( Sonata for trumpet & piano > Description )))
Sonata for Trumpet and Piano

I found this quote at Tom Stevens Website:
"Updated Supplemental Miscellaneous Intelligence: The use of the clarinet for the performance of a trumpet sonata was not unique at the time. On the inside title page of the original published version of the Paul Hindemith trumpet Sonata (Edition Schott 3643, Germany, 1940) there is a note, written in German and followed by the initials P.H., stating that a Bb Clarinet or some other high instrument, such as an Oboe, Violin, or Viola, could be used in place of the trumpet for the performance of the piece."

Hindemith Sonate

JJ · 05-01-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowuk

DubbaC,

I found this quote at Tom Stevens Website:
"Updated Supplemental Miscellaneous Intelligence: The use of the clarinet for the performance of a trumpet sonata was not unique at the time. On the inside title page of the original published version of the Paul Hindemith trumpet Sonata (Edition Schott 3643, Germany, 1940) there is a note, written in German and followed by the initials P.H., stating that a Bb Clarinet or some other high instrument, such as an Oboe, Violin, or Viola, could be used in place of the trumpet for the performance of the piece."

Hindemith Sonate

FYI, I have a facsimile of the first two pages of the autograph score, which include the Bb clarinet reference, as well as an unambiguous tempo marking of quarter = 96-100 ...;)

I'd be happy to share, but have no idea how to upload a jpg file that is bigger than 97KB ...

JJ

Vulgano Brother · 05-01-2007, 11:58 PM

Besides the musical scene, check out the political scene in Germany back then. Look up the Kristallnacht, find out about Mathis der Maler: in other words, feel free to enlarge the box around the Sonata. Viel Spass!

buccinator · 05-27-2007, 03:08 PM

Hallo @all...

...the sonata for trumpet and piano should be performed on trumpet and not on clarinet...that's what I'm convinced of.... Because of what ?.....simply because of the fact, that Paul Hindemith wrote specific sonatas for several instruments ( such as violin, viola, bassoon, trombone....) Why should he have done this, if the instrumentation could be changed ??? A sonata for trumpet should stay a sonata for trumpet and not for clarinet...or any other instrument...
Do you think, I'm wrong ???

buccinator

04-23-2007, 09:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
DubbaCTrumpetMSU Piano User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 340	Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... I am currently trying to find resources for a paper about Hindemith and his trumpet sonata. Does anyone know of any books, or websites that discuss an analysis of the piece(I only need the first movement), information on the history of the piece, the history of the composer...what inspired the piece(or a dedication) etc...stuff like that. I have found a FEW resources, but they are mainly on Hindemith himself, and nothing in-depth about this piece. Thanks! Russ __________________ You don't use people to make music--you use music to make people. Bb-Eclipse MR-Scratch Gold, polished accents D/Eb-Blessing... GR 66C*, Wedge 3E...still searching for a different legit piece... Recordings of my Senior recital-Comments greatly appreciated!! www.myspace.com/russrobinson021906

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Pedal C Piano User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Denver, Co. Posts: 464	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... I could be remembering wrong, but I think there's a pretty good article about it in an ITG...if you have the CD-ROM thing, it's on there. I needed it for my comps last year. THere's a chance that I'm mixing up where I found it with some other article, but I think it was the ITG. If I can find mine, I'll check, but I moved recently...you know how it is. Hope this helps. Jason. __________________ "The oboe's A is to make sure we still play it 1 and 2" - Bud Herseth "One way or another, every patient stops bleeding." - Scrubs

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DubbaCTrumpetMSU Piano User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 340	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... Hey, Thanks for the info-I'll have to see if my teacher has got it-I don't yet, i still have to pay my dues and join. :) __________________ You don't use people to make music--you use music to make people. Bb-Eclipse MR-Scratch Gold, polished accents D/Eb-Blessing... GR 66C*, Wedge 3E...still searching for a different legit piece... Recordings of my Senior recital-Comments greatly appreciated!! www.myspace.com/russrobinson021906

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MahlerBrass Piano User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 371	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... The first place to check is the New Grove Dictionary, I found tons of info on this piece, it actually has a lot of background to it, it's the musicologist in me = ) __________________ Music isn't a career, it's a way of life.

04-27-2007, 03:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,374	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... Another good place to look is on the liner notes of the recordings of this piece. I think sometimes it would have been great if the performers had read the liner notes before recording the piece too.......... Groves is always my first stop, then Wikipedia. I also have an 86 year old german trumpet teacher when I am in doubt! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

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DubbaCTrumpetMSU Piano User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 340	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... Very nice, thanks Rowuk-does anyone happen to have a copy of the part and the piano part that they could PDF to me? Also, MahlerBrass, I found a lot of info on Grove's online..about Hindemith-however, I didn't find much about that specific piece on there at all. Anyway, thanks... Russ __________________ You don't use people to make music--you use music to make people. Bb-Eclipse MR-Scratch Gold, polished accents D/Eb-Blessing... GR 66C, Wedge 3E...still searching for a different legit piece... Recordings of my Senior recital-Comments greatly appreciated!! www.myspace.com/russrobinson021906 Last edited by DubbaCTrumpetMSU; 04-28-2007 at 01:22 PM.*

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rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,374	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... DubbaC, as Hindemith emigrated to the US in 1940 and taught at Yale, you will probably find quite a bit there. You may also want to write Schott (the publisher) for more information (http://www.schott-music.com). There is plenty of stuff in German on the net but that probably does not help you much! Here are a couple of links in english that I have collected over time: allmusic ((( Sonata for trumpet & piano > Description ))) Sonata for Trumpet and Piano I found this quote at Tom Stevens Website: "Updated Supplemental Miscellaneous Intelligence: The use of the clarinet for the performance of a trumpet sonata was not unique at the time. On the inside title page of the original published version of the Paul Hindemith trumpet Sonata (Edition Schott 3643, Germany, 1940) there is a note, written in German and followed by the initials P.H., stating that a Bb Clarinet or some other high instrument, such as an Oboe, Violin, or Viola, could be used in place of the trumpet for the performance of the piece." Hindemith Sonate __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

05-01-2007, 11:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 3,265	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... Besides the musical scene, check out the political scene in Germany back then. Look up the Kristallnacht, find out about Mathis der Maler: in other words, feel free to enlarge the box around the Sonata. Viel Spass! __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

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buccinator New Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bielefeld, Germany Posts: 29	Re: Hindemith Trumpet Sonata...analysis, history... Hallo @all... ...the sonata for trumpet and piano should be performed on trumpet and not on clarinet...that's what I'm convinced of.... Because of what ?.....simply because of the fact, that Paul Hindemith wrote specific sonatas for several instruments ( such as violin, viola, bassoon, trombone....) Why should he have done this, if the instrumentation could be changed ??? A sonata for trumpet should stay a sonata for trumpet and not for clarinet...or any other instrument... Do you think, I'm wrong ??? buccinator

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