Interesting article on noise level in the NY Times

brunets · 04-21-2008, 06:35 PM

Hi,

There is a really interesting article in the NY Times that is worth reading about noise level in orchestras.

See :
No Fortissimo? Symphony Told to Keep It Down - New York Times

Stéphane

Toobz · 04-21-2008, 06:42 PM

That's crazy !!!!

WHAT ???

I Said " That's Crazy !"

dlewis · 04-22-2008, 08:47 AM

Please remember loud noises can cause brain tumors.

brem · 04-22-2008, 09:16 AM

My High School director always wore earplugs. Prevention.

rowuk · 04-22-2008, 04:38 PM

This is a reality!
The development of instruments has been more at the loud end than at the other side! Even the steel wound strings on violins, violas and celli are MUCH louder than their gut predecessors.
There will be repercussions! I guess Herbert Clarke was WAY ahead of his time. He always advocated playing softly!

derekkress · 04-22-2008, 06:49 PM

Not so crazy! One of the reasons I left the professional world was because many of the venues and/or types of gigs I did were harmful to my ears. When I play with my current jazz orchestra we rehearse so our bells aren't pointing behind the trombone section, the drummer in a position where his cymbals aren't smack in someones ears, etc.. We make sure sound levels for amplified instruments are kept at a decent level. Everyone should be sensitive to decibel levels and practice and perform accordingly!

Toobz · 04-23-2008, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toobz

That's crazy !!!!

WHAT ???

I Said " That's Crazy !"

Twas a joke, albeit a lousy one !

Quote:

Originally Posted by derekkress

Not so crazy! ...

No, it's not so crazy, and just another example of noise pollution in modern times. I once had a car installer who would proudly demonstrate his car audio system by placing a plastic cup on the roof and then make it bounce from the sheer volume of his audio system. He spoke rather loudly most of the time (Wonder why ?)

These examples are something our forefathers never encountered.
It's also a great investment opportunity for future investors. Can you say miracle ear, boys and girls !

oldenick · 04-23-2008, 09:35 AM

It's too bad the Times article keeps refering to the noise that the orchestra produces. I am sure it is quite loud, but noise? That has bad connotations for me.

brunets · 04-23-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldenick

It's too bad the Times article keeps refering to the noise that the orchestra produces. I am sure it is quite loud, but noise? That has bad connotations for me.

Well, I don't think it is to denigrate the orchestral music but to put more emphasis on the fact that sound/music can become harmful at a certain sound level and be like any random noise that is too loud.

Stéphane

Bear · 04-23-2008, 11:52 AM

Man, forget the musical realm. Just walking down the street someone can go deaf. The little riceburners with the stupid 8x's too big mufflers that sound like a jet is overhead. The other folxs who blast their stereos to the point of their cars fall apart due to sympathetic vibrations, people shouting into their cell phones, etc, etc... "Can you hear me now?!"

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brunets Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montreal,QC Posts: 106	Interesting article on noise level in the NY Times Hi, There is a really interesting article in the NY Times that is worth reading about noise level in orchestras. See : No Fortissimo? Symphony Told to Keep It Down - New York Times Stéphane

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derekkress Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal Qc Canada Brand: Celebration by Flip Oakes Posts: 122	Re: Interesting article on noise level in the NY Times Not so crazy! One of the reasons I left the professional world was because many of the venues and/or types of gigs I did were harmful to my ears. When I play with my current jazz orchestra we rehearse so our bells aren't pointing behind the trombone section, the drummer in a position where his cymbals aren't smack in someones ears, etc.. We make sure sound levels for amplified instruments are kept at a decent level. Everyone should be sensitive to decibel levels and practice and perform accordingly!
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oldenick New Friend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CT Brand: Lawler Posts: 35	Re: Interesting article on noise level in the NY Times It's too bad the Times article keeps refering to the noise that the orchestra produces. I am sure it is quite loud, but noise? That has bad connotations for me.

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Bear Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CO Posts: 784	Re: Interesting article on noise level in the NY Times Man, forget the musical realm. Just walking down the street someone can go deaf. The little riceburners with the stupid 8x's too big mufflers that sound like a jet is overhead. The other folxs who blast their stereos to the point of their cars fall apart due to sympathetic vibrations, people shouting into their cell phones, etc, etc... "Can you hear me now?!"
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