Quite a difference?

nordlandstrompet · 10-15-2009, 02:23 PM

YouTube - Adolph Herseth plays Mahler No.5

YouTube - OBC, Eiji Oue, Mahler 5, 1

Bach219 · 10-15-2009, 06:24 PM

The trumpet player on the top is sharper than the one on the bottom?!?! Or the one of the bottom is flatter than the top?!?!

rettepnoj · 10-15-2009, 06:38 PM

Trakt og tut tenker du på? Hadde glætt tatt hu der altså..

ComeBackKid · 10-24-2009, 01:34 AM

The second one is much prettier than the first - but, the first one looks a lot more like me. Hey, maybe I'm not too old to play after all (my wife keeps telling me that I am).

Seriously, both were very enjoyable but the conductor's style differences are apparent.

rowuk · 10-30-2009, 08:54 AM

I would hope that there is a difference between a player with a style created over a period of 60 years and one that has been playing only for 10 or 15.

They both do a fine job. Bud Herseth defined orchestral trumpet playing for many years. Mireia now has her chance. Let's discuss this in 20 years! I see a lot of "younger" generation players leaving orchestras to become soloists or professors.

Bach219 · 10-30-2009, 06:30 PM

In 2nd vid, on 8:00, does the conductor tell the brass (?) section to stop, then give them the okay to play after? It almost looks like it!

dizforprez · 11-01-2009, 06:42 PM

There is much more of a differance in conductors of the two, than trumpet players. That would be a better discussion.

richtom · 11-01-2009, 08:08 PM

The CSO sound is not in synch with the video. There also seems to have been some editing at 7:17 in the piece where it sounds like a near train wreck. I would like to see the actual DVD of the performance and compare it to this youtube version.
Get the 1970 London/Decca recording of the Mahler Fifth with Solti to hear Bud and the CSO in real context. That recording was a staple in high end stereo shops for years.
Rich T.

dizforprez · 11-01-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richtom

The CSO sound is not in synch with the video. There also seems to have been some editing at 7:17 in the piece where it sounds like a near train wreck. I would like to see the actual DVD of the performance and compare it to this youtube version.
Get the 1970 London/Decca recording of the Mahler Fifth with Solti to hear Bud and the CSO in real context. That recording was a staple in high end stereo shops for years.
Rich T.

It is my understanding that the Decca recordings do not represent the sound of the CSO very well.

s.coomer · 11-01-2009, 09:38 PM

Seems to me that neither recording is very good in that the video does not match the sound in either one. I don't think, however, that you can compare Bud's playing then to someone rather fresh out of the gate. As Rowuk said, give her twenty years and then let's see.

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10-30-2009, 08:54 AM	#5
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,355	Re: Quite a difference? I would hope that there is a difference between a player with a style created over a period of 60 years and one that has been playing only for 10 or 15. They both do a fine job. Bud Herseth defined orchestral trumpet playing for many years. Mireia now has her chance. Let's discuss this in 20 years! I see a lot of "younger" generation players leaving orchestras to become soloists or professors. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

10-30-2009, 06:30 PM	#6
Bach219 Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MI Posts: 523	Re: Quite a difference? In 2nd vid, on 8:00, does the conductor tell the brass (?) section to stop, then give them the okay to play after? It almost looks like it! __________________ Raw brass Bach TR300 Vincent Bach 3C Vincent Bach 7C Vincent Bach Corp. 10.5C I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced.- Wynton Marsalis

11-01-2009, 06:42 PM	#7
dizforprez Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,076	Re: Quite a difference? There is much more of a differance in conductors of the two, than trumpet players. That would be a better discussion.

11-01-2009, 08:08 PM	#8
richtom Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 195	Re: Quite a difference? The CSO sound is not in synch with the video. There also seems to have been some editing at 7:17 in the piece where it sounds like a near train wreck. I would like to see the actual DVD of the performance and compare it to this youtube version. Get the 1970 London/Decca recording of the Mahler Fifth with Solti to hear Bud and the CSO in real context. That recording was a staple in high end stereo shops for years. Rich T.

11-01-2009, 09:38 PM	#10
s.coomer Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Indianapolis, In Posts: 919	Re: Quite a difference? Seems to me that neither recording is very good in that the video does not match the sound in either one. I don't think, however, that you can compare Bud's playing then to someone rather fresh out of the gate. As Rowuk said, give her twenty years and then let's see.

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