tomasi question

ltg_trumpet · 09-06-2009, 08:17 PM

Im planning on performing the Tomasi Trumpet Concerto, and my question, before i purchase it, is whether or not the peice is for trumpet in C or Bb, im purchasing it from JW pepper and unfortunately it doesnt specify, Ive watched several videos of it being performed on C, so im a bit weary of that, however, I love this peice, and if i need to rent out a C trumpet, i would most definately do so... any information would be most apreciated, thanks

trumpetnick · 09-07-2009, 04:16 AM

Most modern/contemporary french music for trumpet is written for C trumpet which is the case with Tomasi concerto. There may be some publishers who already provide the trumpet part in B flat as well, but I have never seen one. So most probably you will have to transpose or transcribe it yourself. Or get a C trumpet. It is rather brave to play the piece on B flat.

sdfbailey · 09-07-2009, 08:00 AM

It's been done on Bb but I wouldn't recommend it! One of my former teachers did it on Bb in the André competition many years ago - this raised a few eyebrows amongst the crowd!

I think Sergei Nakariakov recorded it on the Bb, and maybe Wynton did too on his recording (anyone know?). Nick's right, the Tomasi was written for the C - do it on the C if you can get hold of one.

Best of luck!

trumpetnick · 09-07-2009, 08:46 AM

Few years ago, a trumpeter from my trumpet class at the RNCM did it on B flat for the final examination. It went OK, but I wouldn't do that.

ltg_trumpet · 09-07-2009, 08:07 PM

well... unfortunately i bought the piece, when i shoud've waited for answers... lol... mom said that she doesnt know how ima get a c horn... great... well see what happens once i get the piece and if sergei could do than i could do it... lmao... Riiiiiight... haha thanks for the help guys

rowuk · 09-08-2009, 02:15 AM

There are other solos out there that are more fun on the Bb. The Tomasi deserves the lightness and "creamyness" of sound that a good C has.

trumpetnick · 09-08-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rowuk

There are other solos out there that are more fun on the Bb.

Hindemith Sonata is one of them. Hansen Sonata is another one. These just popped in my mind. You can find plenty more.

sonicgeo2 · 09-18-2009, 06:39 PM

One should be quite comfortable on the C trumpet before trying to play this piece. If you haven't been playing C consistently beforehand, it will be even more difficult.

sonarerocks · 09-26-2009, 11:41 PM

The Tomasi conerto is extremely tough, every recording makes it sound eay but it sure isn't. One of my teachers once told " Make sure you know what you're doing before you play the Tomasi"

ltg_trumpet · 11-16-2009, 08:18 PM

yea! this solo is hard... not impossible, Ive rented a C horn, and it is a tad harder, the notes are a bit harder to hit, but, I want this more than anything Ive wanted in my whole life...

09-06-2009, 08:17 PM	#1
ltg_trumpet Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 318	tomasi question Im planning on performing the Tomasi Trumpet Concerto, and my question, before i purchase it, is whether or not the peice is for trumpet in C or Bb, im purchasing it from JW pepper and unfortunately it doesnt specify, Ive watched several videos of it being performed on C, so im a bit weary of that, however, I love this peice, and if i need to rent out a C trumpet, i would most definately do so... any information would be most apreciated, thanks __________________ super collegiate tri-tone (raw brass)

09-07-2009, 04:16 AM	#2
trumpetnick Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Posts: 1,892	Re: tomasi question Most modern/contemporary french music for trumpet is written for C trumpet which is the case with Tomasi concerto. There may be some publishers who already provide the trumpet part in B flat as well, but I have never seen one. So most probably you will have to transpose or transcribe it yourself. Or get a C trumpet. It is rather brave to play the piece on B flat. __________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

09-07-2009, 08:00 AM	#3
sdfbailey New Friend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tipton, nr Birmingham, UK Posts: 20	Re: tomasi question It's been done on Bb but I wouldn't recommend it! One of my former teachers did it on Bb in the André competition many years ago - this raised a few eyebrows amongst the crowd! I think Sergei Nakariakov recorded it on the Bb, and maybe Wynton did too on his recording (anyone know?). Nick's right, the Tomasi was written for the C - do it on the C if you can get hold of one. Best of luck!

09-07-2009, 08:46 AM	#4
trumpetnick Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Posts: 1,892	Re: tomasi question Few years ago, a trumpeter from my trumpet class at the RNCM did it on B flat for the final examination. It went OK, but I wouldn't do that. __________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

09-07-2009, 08:07 PM	#5
ltg_trumpet Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 318	Re: tomasi question well... unfortunately i bought the piece, when i shoud've waited for answers... lol... mom said that she doesnt know how ima get a c horn... great... well see what happens once i get the piece and if sergei could do than i could do it... lmao... Riiiiiight... haha thanks for the help guys __________________ super collegiate tri-tone (raw brass)

09-08-2009, 02:15 AM	#6
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,364	Re: tomasi question There are other solos out there that are more fun on the Bb. The Tomasi deserves the lightness and "creamyness" of sound that a good C has. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

09-18-2009, 06:39 PM	#8
sonicgeo2 Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Grand Rapids and Philly Posts: 74	Re: tomasi question One should be quite comfortable on the C trumpet before trying to play this piece. If you haven't been playing C consistently beforehand, it will be even more difficult. __________________ I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced. -Wynton Marsalis

09-26-2009, 11:41 PM	#9
sonarerocks Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Omaha NE Posts: 72	Re: tomasi question The Tomasi conerto is extremely tough, every recording makes it sound eay but it sure isn't. One of my teachers once told " Make sure you know what you're doing before you play the Tomasi"

11-16-2009, 08:18 PM	#10
ltg_trumpet Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 318	Re: tomasi question yea! this solo is hard... not impossible, Ive rented a C horn, and it is a tad harder, the notes are a bit harder to hit, but, I want this more than anything Ive wanted in my whole life... __________________ super collegiate tri-tone (raw brass)

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