This Week the Trumpet Giants Promenade

abbedd · 10-16-2005, 07:29 AM

http://home.earthlink.net/~abbedd/pr...ndpoulenc.html

Enjoy

Abbedd

Manny Laureano · 10-16-2005, 09:51 AM

Absolutely fascinating to be able to hear those in quick succession!

Abbedd, this is a very kind and generous service that you provide for us, truly. Thank you for the time and effort it must take.

I'm trying to imagine what the younger set must think of these highly stylized interpretations and sounds. I'm sure many are scratching their heads after hearing some of those. Today's mostly antiseptic style of playing begs for less wobble here and more perfection there. After all, with endless takes during a session and super-duper crystalline digital sound why shouldn't it be "perfect"?

What gets missed is that many of these performances are done in a couple of takes or less. Also, the stylization is part of what built some of those orchestras into the mammoth musical forces they were/are.

ML

abbedd · 10-16-2005, 10:16 AM

Manny

It is my pleasure.

Not much trumpet but listen to Toscanini hypnotize the NBC Sym in 1951 into a superhuman performance of Die Meistisinger Act 3 prelude. My favorite Toscanini recording and some superfine brass playing led by Arthur Berv, Horn, Neil DiBiase Trombone and Joe Novotny Tuba

3 years later the orchestra was disbanded when Toscanini was fired

http://home.earthlink.net/~toscaninny/atmact31951.mp3

Enjoy

Abbedd

pwillini · 10-16-2005, 03:53 PM

Abbedd,

Thanks! Manny said it all, it's great to listen to the contrasting styles in the "Pictures" comparison. All very different indeed! Love the Glantz version!

jcstites · 10-16-2005, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

Absolutely fascinating to be able to hear those in quick succession!
I'm trying to imagine what the younger set must think of these highly stylized interpretations and sounds. I'm sure many are scratching their heads after hearing some of those.

I should have taken a picture of me when i listened to them. Definatly "old school" I dont like the sounds very much, but i realize how trumpet playing has evolved and take what i can from them.

Interesting to hear them, thanks for posting abbedd.

abbedd · 10-16-2005, 05:02 PM

can you explain what you mean by old school and why you did not like them

Abbedd

jcstites · 10-16-2005, 05:08 PM

#1 - vibrato
#2 - sound

the vacchiano and longinotti are the ones i prefer. i just dont enjoy the sound of the voison or glantz.

cmcdougall · 10-16-2005, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

I'm trying to imagine what the younger set must think of these highly stylized interpretations and sounds. I'm sure many are scratching their heads after hearing some of those. Today's mostly antiseptic style of playing begs for less wobble here and more perfection there.

ML

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking when listening to these clips I am 18 so I would guess I qualify as the younger set.

cmcdougall · 10-16-2005, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Laureano

I'm trying to imagine what the younger set must think of these highly stylized interpretations and sounds. I'm sure many are scratching their heads after hearing some of those. Today's mostly antiseptic style of playing begs for less wobble here and more perfection there.

ML

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking when listening to these clips I am 18 so I would guess I qualify as the younger set. Especially on the Voisin "Pictures" I just couldn't beleive the startling vibrato on the end of each note, I think i prefer more recent interpretations.

abbedd · 10-16-2005, 05:17 PM

I didn't expect anybody to like the Voison. Longinotti played with no vibrato always, as did all the winds of the Suisse Romande when Ansermet was conducting. The strings played with minimal vibrato

BTW Glantz was principal in Philly way back in 1915. he was 59 when he promenaded

Can you tell me what orchestral trumpters of today you like.

BTW are you British or American

Abbedd

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abbedd Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 133	This Week the Trumpet Giants Promenade http://home.earthlink.net/~abbedd/pr...ndpoulenc.html Enjoy Abbedd

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pwillini Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 135	Abbedd, Thanks! Manny said it all, it's great to listen to the contrasting styles in the "Pictures" comparison. All very different indeed! Love the Glantz version! __________________ Music's only purpose should be the glory of God and the recreation of the human spirit - J. S. Bach 2004 ZeuS Olympus ARLX 1976 Bach 37 Strad 1990 Blessing ML1-G Artist Edition 1917 Conn Victor New Wonder Cornet

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jcstites Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 759	#1 - vibrato #2 - sound the vacchiano and longinotti are the ones i prefer. i just dont enjoy the sound of the voison or glantz. __________________ www.jonathanstites.com

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Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	Absolutely fascinating to be able to hear those in quick succession! Abbedd, this is a very kind and generous service that you provide for us, truly. Thank you for the time and effort it must take. I'm trying to imagine what the younger set must think of these highly stylized interpretations and sounds. I'm sure many are scratching their heads after hearing some of those. Today's mostly antiseptic style of playing begs for less wobble here and more perfection there. After all, with endless takes during a session and super-duper crystalline digital sound why shouldn't it be "perfect"? What gets missed is that many of these performances are done in a couple of takes or less. Also, the stylization is part of what built some of those orchestras into the mammoth musical forces they were/are. ML

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abbedd Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 133	Manny It is my pleasure. Not much trumpet but listen to Toscanini hypnotize the NBC Sym in 1951 into a superhuman performance of Die Meistisinger Act 3 prelude. My favorite Toscanini recording and some superfine brass playing led by Arthur Berv, Horn, Neil DiBiase Trombone and Joe Novotny Tuba 3 years later the orchestra was disbanded when Toscanini was fired http://home.earthlink.net/~toscaninny/atmact31951.mp3 Enjoy Abbedd

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abbedd Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 133	can you explain what you mean by old school and why you did not like them Abbedd

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abbedd Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 133	I didn't expect anybody to like the Voison. Longinotti played with no vibrato always, as did all the winds of the Suisse Romande when Ansermet was conducting. The strings played with minimal vibrato BTW Glantz was principal in Philly way back in 1915. he was 59 when he promenaded Can you tell me what orchestral trumpters of today you like. BTW are you British or American Abbedd

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