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Old 02-04-2005, 03:34 PM   #11
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It should be 1-2-3.

In a stage band you're not a section leader that is listening for what's going on 40 feet away from you. You're listening and leading from an epicenter of sorts. If the principal player of an orchestra, however, is in the middle of the section he'll be able to lead the trumpet section and little else unless the first trombone is directly behind.

The principal trumpet, horn, and trombone are a brass trinity that needs to communicate based on what they hear in other parts of the orchestra. It's too difficult to do that from the stage band position. Surely, you're not suggesting we watch the conductor?!

The horror... the horror.

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Interesting - I had often wondered why orchestras did not set up like big-bands. Do you ever play with a bumper? If so, where do you stick him / her?

In the LSO when they are playing with a bumper, they line up: bumper, 1, 2, 3 , 4 - sort of putting the principal nearer that "stage band" central position, but they do so I presume so that the rest of the section isn't seperated from their principal by the bumper.
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"Do you ever play with a bumper? If so, where do you stick him / her?"

I love it.

Obviously, from your context, "bumper" is what we Yanks call an assistant but the imagery is provocative. Imagine.. everytime I nod off and doze there's someone to bump me with his elbow and wake me up!

Or...

The bassoonist in front of me fidgets in his chair and I can't see... enter the bumper to use his well-trained elbow to knock said offending bassoonist into oblivion.

Ahh, the mind reels, Jack.

No, amigo, I have not used a bumper since I've been here but if you move here you've got the job!

What terminology do we use that cracks you all up across the pond?

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Imagine.. everytime I nod off and doze there's someone to bump me with his elbow and wake me up!

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That would be the butler with the silver tray holding the Jack Daniels who discretely whispers in your ear...."Your next entry is in 4 bars, sir".
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"Do you ever play with a bumper? If so, where do you stick him / her?"

I love it.

Obviously, from your context, "bumper" is what we Yanks call an assistant but the imagery is provocative. Imagine.. everytime I nod off and doze there's someone to bump me with his elbow and wake me up!

Or...

The bassoonist in front of me fidgets in his chair and I can't see... enter the bumper to use his well-trained elbow to knock said offending bassoonist into oblivion.

Ahh, the mind reels, Jack.

No, amigo, I have not used a bumper since I've been here but if you move here you've got the job!

What terminology do we use that cracks you all up across the pond?

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Haha Manny - that would look good on my CV "bumper with the Minnesota Orchestra" - just have to not tell people that it was my elbows rather than my chops that got me the job

I'll have to think of americanisms that make me laugh. Help me out UKers!

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What terminology do we use that cracks you all up across the pond?
You mean, apart from calling all brass and woodwind instruments "horns"?
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