B-flat trumpet for lead playing

Jimi Michiel · 04-18-2005, 10:14 PM

So I've been studying classical trumpet for the last 5 years, but now I want to get back into lead playing. Does anyone have any recommendations for a lightweight, high quality, affordable instrument? I'm thinking used Bach 37, but I really feel ignorant when it comes to lead equipment. Thanks in advance.
-Jimi

trickg · 04-18-2005, 11:27 PM

I just got my hands on a used Schilke B6 - the trumpet that the Yamaha 6310Z "Z Horn" was designed from, although it can't be called inexpensive by any stretch.

However, although I have only owned it for 4 days, I believe that it is going to be worth every penny.

Bear · 04-18-2005, 11:32 PM

what does inexpensive mean to you?....

camelbrass · 04-18-2005, 11:49 PM

The most inexpensive...use your Bach 37. It's perfectly acceptable for a lead trumpet and lot's of good players use it.

If you want to change and try a light weight. Kanstul Chicago 1001 or 1070, good condition LA Benge 2X, 3X, (+) or CG, Kanstul made Besson Meha, Bach 72*. Watch the bigger bore ones...like the 1070 and the Meha. Might seem great at first but take some blowing at the end of the 4th set.

Just a few quick thoughts.

Regards,

Trevor

Jimi Michiel · 04-19-2005, 12:31 AM

Wow, thanks for responding so quickly. I really can't go more than 1200 for a new B-flat, which is why I'm thinking that I should go the "used" route. I never really liked the way new trumpets felt anyway...
I think I want to go with a smaller horn (bell and bore). At one point I owned both a Bach 37 and a Bach 72. I sold the 72 because it played too much like a C trumpet and the 37 was just stolen while on loan to a friend. My friend had been borrowing it for almost two years, but I remember it being ok for lead playing. I'm waiting for the insurance money (prob about 1200) to buy a new horn.
Thanks guys,
Jimi

Schwab · 04-19-2005, 01:32 AM

Go to Rayburn and check stuff out, even if you don't want to buy new, you can probably find something you really like and then look for it used somewhere. I remember them having a pretty great selection of different brands. Get a Scodwell, although that will probably run you more than $1200.

trickg · 04-19-2005, 01:43 AM

I paid just over $1200 for the Schilke.

Bourbon City · 04-19-2005, 06:41 AM

Check out www.dillonmusic.com they have a large selection of used trumpets as well as new ones.

gzent · 04-19-2005, 09:14 AM

Jimi,

In all seriousness - pick up a 1950's Olds Ambassador with good valves and have it tweaked for your preferences. You will spend less money and have a horn that will put a new Strad (Xeno, etc) to shame.

Take a look at what a fellow over on TH had done with his Olds:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gid2129611&?

Greg

Jarrett · 04-19-2005, 10:13 AM

I'd second the Bach 37 notion. I have been using a Bach 37 Heavybell for years and I've never found anything I was more comfortable with for lead playing. Find yourself a good one. I paid 300 bucks for mine.
-J

04-18-2005, 10:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jimi Michiel Forte User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,699	B-flat trumpet for lead playing So I've been studying classical trumpet for the last 5 years, but now I want to get back into lead playing. Does anyone have any recommendations for a lightweight, high quality, affordable instrument? I'm thinking used Bach 37, but I really feel ignorant when it comes to lead equipment. Thanks in advance. -Jimi

04-18-2005, 11:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	I just got my hands on a used Schilke B6 - the trumpet that the Yamaha 6310Z "Z Horn" was designed from, although it can't be called inexpensive by any stretch. However, although I have only owned it for 4 days, I believe that it is going to be worth every penny. __________________ Patrick Gleason email me at: trickg1@hotmail.com "What we do in life echoes in eternity" "At my signal, unleash hell." - Maximus Decimus Meridius

04-19-2005, 01:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 1,000	Go to Rayburn and check stuff out, even if you don't want to buy new, you can probably find something you really like and then look for it used somewhere. I remember them having a pretty great selection of different brands. Get a Scodwell, although that will probably run you more than $1200. __________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

04-19-2005, 01:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	I paid just over $1200 for the Schilke. __________________ Patrick Gleason email me at: trickg1@hotmail.com "What we do in life echoes in eternity" "At my signal, unleash hell." - Maximus Decimus Meridius

04-19-2005, 06:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bourbon City Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Louisville/Bardstown, Kentucky Posts: 195	Check out www.dillonmusic.com they have a large selection of used trumpets as well as new ones. __________________ Dale Schmidt, P.E. Bridges to build and Rivers crossed...

04-18-2005, 11:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bear Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CO Posts: 799	what does inexpensive mean to you?....

04-18-2005, 11:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
camelbrass Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 797	The most inexpensive...use your Bach 37. It's perfectly acceptable for a lead trumpet and lot's of good players use it. If you want to change and try a light weight. Kanstul Chicago 1001 or 1070, good condition LA Benge 2X, 3X, (+) or CG, Kanstul made Besson Meha, Bach 72*. Watch the bigger bore ones...like the 1070 and the Meha. Might seem great at first but take some blowing at the end of the 4th set. Just a few quick thoughts. Regards, Trevor

04-19-2005, 12:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jimi Michiel Forte User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,699	Wow, thanks for responding so quickly. I really can't go more than 1200 for a new B-flat, which is why I'm thinking that I should go the "used" route. I never really liked the way new trumpets felt anyway... I think I want to go with a smaller horn (bell and bore). At one point I owned both a Bach 37 and a Bach 72. I sold the 72 because it played too much like a C trumpet and the 37 was just stolen while on loan to a friend. My friend had been borrowing it for almost two years, but I remember it being ok for lead playing. I'm waiting for the insurance money (prob about 1200) to buy a new horn. Thanks guys, Jimi

04-19-2005, 09:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
gzent Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 1,515	Jimi, In all seriousness - pick up a 1950's Olds Ambassador with good valves and have it tweaked for your preferences. You will spend less money and have a horn that will put a new Strad (Xeno, etc) to shame. Take a look at what a fellow over on TH had done with his Olds: http://www.picturetrail.com/gid2129611&? Greg __________________ Harmony and understanding Sympathy and trust abounding No more falsehoods or derisions Golden living dreams of visions Mystic crystal revalation And the mind's true liberation

04-19-2005, 10:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jarrett Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ft. Leonard Wood MO Posts: 269	I'd second the Bach 37 notion. I have been using a Bach 37 Heavybell for years and I've never found anything I was more comfortable with for lead playing. Find yourself a good one. I paid 300 bucks for mine. -J __________________ Bach 37 3C

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