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| Pianissimo User | Dizzy Gillespie's Style Does anybody know of a book or website that offers an analysis of Dizzy's style? I really dig how he plays. Also, does anyone know if there is an omnibook-like publication with Dizzy? Thanks! |
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| First, let me encourage you to transcribe your favorite Dizzy solos yourself. Trust me that you'll get more out of them that way. But I will answer your question. Yes, there are books of transcriptions. Go to www.halleonard.com and search for Dizzy and you'll find a book of 20 transcriptions, including Manteca, Night in Tunisia, Anthropology and more. Enjoy, Joey Tartell |
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| ...and listen to as much of diz as you can, buy dvds of his shows. listen to him, and listen to what your insides say in response. listen to what is going on musically and rhythmically; listen to how he interacts with what the other musicians are doing rhythmically and harmonically. listen to the fludity of the interplay, the constant balance of silences layered upon sound. take that with you when you practice the transcriptions; it'll give you stronger legs to stand on instead of getting lost in the misteries of converting a live(living) bit of music onto the page--the same as reading a speech and listening to it live or recorded live. best thing to do always is transcribe it yourself, by ear, without writing it(yet), just breaking up--stopping the recording--phrase by phrase, you echoing until what you play is what he plays, in your own voice of course. me and booker little had lota little light conversation while riding through the south jersey country side bulls would testify |
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| Mezzo Piano User | I must ask this as an aspiring improvisor, how is it possible to transcribe something that moves way too fast I can't even catch the first note??? |
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![]() ![]() | There are plenty of "aftermarket" products able to slow the recordings down. Reed Kotler's Transkriber comes to mind (run a google search). Best, Trent |
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| Mezzo Forte User | Dizzy was very in to the flatted 5th. |
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| Mezzo Piano User | Quote:
Don't you mean raised fourth? | |
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| Mezzo Forte User | that,s cool! |
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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| eisprl, the best way to do it is to slow your hearing down. just imagine what it was like before all of the technology that we have now existed. imagine what it was like for all of the previous aspiring "improv"ers, the legions and legions of bird clones...they had to find a way to imitate him. granted, many if not most of them had records, so slowing the recordings down was a common way of understanding bop (slow the recording down, learn it at the slowed tempo and key, transcribe it into the song's or solo's natural key, learn to play it in every key and at any tempo). but there were still countless musicians who were unable to buy recordings, but were able to learn from live performances. all you have to do is listen. the more you listen (to every and any sound that your ears are able to hold), the more you will become accustomed to the language. there is the common lanuguage of music, but the jazz language is an extension of common music language. what diz was doing on the trumpet was not simply based on music and notation; he was musically playing how the people spoke. jazz, like all forms of black music, is derived from the spoken language, even before the music hits the page (you have to understand that African derived languages, including African American speech, is inherently musical). sorry. i got the jibberjabbars. i said all of that just to say, just listen. if all you hear is one note, keep going back until you understand that note; keep going back until you hear and understand the next note. you will get it if you're patient. if not, get a fake real book, or real fake book. i hear disney is releasing a jazz how-to-improv series, with books cds and dvds. |
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Don't you mean raised fourth? There's a difference between the two and it depends on which note is the one you're doing something to. Lowering a fifth ain't the same as raising a fourth, is it? And it sure won't sound the same! Tom | |
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