Lead mouthpiece

John P · 06-27-2006, 04:37 PM

Hey guys,

I'm playing on a Bach 1C for classical/orchestral stuff and a Schilke 14a4a for jazz/lead work. I'm really happy with the 1C, but after a gig on the Schilke it feels like I'm falling into the Bach. Any ideas on a lead piece that would be less of a huge transition? I'm thinking about a 1E...

Bear · 06-27-2006, 07:07 PM

If you like the 1C for legit, why not try the 3C for lead?

scream machine · 06-27-2006, 08:58 PM

1C? That thing is huge! Try to move up to a 3C and use it for everything.

Spleeyah! · 06-27-2006, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear

If you like the 1C for legit, why not try the 3C for lead?

I 2nd that vote for using 3C as a lead piece. Good mouthpiece

trpt2345 · 06-27-2006, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spleeyah!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear

If you like the 1C for legit, why not try the 3C for lead?

I 2nd that vote for using 3C as a lead piece. Good mouthpiece

Nah, a 3C is still way too big for lead work. I'd keep a 3C for legit work and your schilke for lead. Maybe go to a 14A4C for a bigger backbore.

Michael McLaughlin

"Good actions ennoble us, and we are the sons of our deeds."
Miguel de Cervantes

John P · 06-27-2006, 11:55 PM

Thing is, orchestral playing is my main focus; and I loooove the 1C for that. I just want a good piece to play lead on in my college jazz band. I tried the 3C for lead but I didn't really like it.

mike ansberry · 06-28-2006, 01:05 AM

You'll get a dozen guys here all with different opinions, so I'll jump in too. I play a 3B for legit work and an Allen Vizzutti Marcinkiewicz for lead. The rim feels slightly bigger than my 3 rim. It has a lot of bite and the sound could melt steel. It makes playing high and loud a lot easier. I don't feel dead after a 4 hour job blowing lead anymore.

nieuwguyski · 06-28-2006, 01:18 AM

I can't believe the responses telling you to ditch a mouthpiece you're happy with. If you're happy with the 1C, keep playing the 1C.

That said, I used to play a 1C, tried both the 1E and 1D, and found them to be unplayable. I immediately bottomed out on both. Hey, either one might work for you, but they didn't feel the same to me at all. (Cue the "GR Alpha Angle" speech.)

Were I still playing the 1C I'd probably look into the Curry line of mouthpieces for a lead model. Curry claims to offer shallower mouthpieces suitable for lead playing, with rims that don't deviate from the standard Bach C-style.

Nordic Trumpet · 06-28-2006, 05:09 AM

I use Bach 3C for legit work and a Giardinelli 7M medium cup for lead play. That combination has always worked for me. Besides, doing lead work on a medium cup instead of a shallow cup also gives a much better sound in my opinion.

I've also played the Schilke 14A4a for a year, but I didn't like the sound of it and I found it hard to switch between the 3C and the 14A4a

So, I would find a medium cup mouthpiece for lead work if I were you.

--
Geir

ALLCHOPS · 06-28-2006, 08:35 AM

Call GR for a consultation and get-er done the right way....

06-27-2006, 04:37 PM	#1
John P Piano User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Camp Hill, PA Posts: 326	Lead mouthpiece Hey guys, I'm playing on a Bach 1C for classical/orchestral stuff and a Schilke 14a4a for jazz/lead work. I'm really happy with the 1C, but after a gig on the Schilke it feels like I'm falling into the Bach. Any ideas on a lead piece that would be less of a huge transition? I'm thinking about a 1E... __________________ JP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAF67ua91Dk www.myspace.com/jmpowlison

06-27-2006, 07:07 PM	#2
Bear Forte User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,230	If you like the 1C for legit, why not try the 3C for lead? __________________ The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles, but to irrigate deserts. -C. S. Lewis Life is about learning; when you stop learning, you die. -Tom Clancy And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. -Revelation 8:6

06-27-2006, 08:58 PM	#3
scream machine Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Woodland, AL Posts: 135	1C? That thing is huge! Try to move up to a 3C and use it for everything. __________________ "I'm not a fighting man, but I really wasted that cat."- Maynard ferguson

06-27-2006, 11:55 PM	#6
John P Piano User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Camp Hill, PA Posts: 326	Thing is, orchestral playing is my main focus; and I loooove the 1C for that. I just want a good piece to play lead on in my college jazz band. I tried the 3C for lead but I didn't really like it. __________________ JP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAF67ua91Dk www.myspace.com/jmpowlison

06-28-2006, 01:05 AM	#7
mike ansberry Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Posts: 385	You'll get a dozen guys here all with different opinions, so I'll jump in too. I play a 3B for legit work and an Allen Vizzutti Marcinkiewicz for lead. The rim feels slightly bigger than my 3 rim. It has a lot of bite and the sound could melt steel. It makes playing high and loud a lot easier. I don't feel dead after a 4 hour job blowing lead anymore. __________________ "Music is a fire in your belly that has to come out of your mouth, so you'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt" (paraphrase of Bleeding Gums Murphy) Eclipse MR in scratch gold Olds Super/Ultrasonic Conn 40B Leblanc Paris large bore with Bach mouthpipe Bach 37 Olds L-12 Flugel Benge Picc Buescher Cornet made in 1914 American Standard (King?) beginner trumpet (crap) Willing to provide a good home for a stray Conn 48B or Olds Recording

06-28-2006, 01:18 AM	#8
nieuwguyski Piano User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 268	I can't believe the responses telling you to ditch a mouthpiece you're happy with. If you're happy with the 1C, keep playing the 1C. That said, I used to play a 1C, tried both the 1E and 1D, and found them to be unplayable. I immediately bottomed out on both. Hey, either one might work for you, but they didn't feel the same to me at all. (Cue the "GR Alpha Angle" speech.) Were I still playing the 1C I'd probably look into the Curry line of mouthpieces for a lead model. Curry claims to offer shallower mouthpieces suitable for lead playing, with rims that don't deviate from the standard Bach C-style. __________________ John N. Nieuwguyski

06-28-2006, 05:09 AM	#9
Nordic Trumpet Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 164	I use Bach 3C for legit work and a Giardinelli 7M medium cup for lead play. That combination has always worked for me. Besides, doing lead work on a medium cup instead of a shallow cup also gives a much better sound in my opinion. I've also played the Schilke 14A4a for a year, but I didn't like the sound of it and I found it hard to switch between the 3C and the 14A4a So, I would find a medium cup mouthpiece for lead work if I were you. -- Geir __________________ Stage 1 New York Bb trumpet Stage 1 Classic flugelhorn GR mouthpieces http://www.zyndicatepartners.com

06-28-2006, 08:35 AM	#10
ALLCHOPS Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saratoga Springs, N.Y. Posts: 339	Call GR for a consultation and get-er done the right way.... __________________ www.NEWYORKPLAYERS.com www.myspace.com/TONYGAMBARO

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