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Old 07-15-2007, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Playing fast...

Ingrid,
Wilmer suggested I ask you and Tom this question that I already posted on the general forum. It has to do with playing fast runs during "up-tempo" jazz improvisations. I'm a 64 yr. old returning player and feel like I'll never be able to think and play long runs during fast jazz improvisation. Can you give me some insight to what the mental process (yours and others who have shared that with you) as well as what it takes to achieve that technically. I feel like I'm asking a lot here, but anything you can offer will help.

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Old 07-21-2007, 06:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Playing fast...

I would like to hear a take on this as well............thanks

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Old 07-21-2007, 07:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Playing fast...

Check out these Carl Saunders solos:
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Playing fast...

I don't know whether this applies to improvistation or not but I like one thing Mendez said about learning to play fast. "If you want to play fast first you must play slow." Really have the technique down and bang the valves down hard and playing fast should be easier.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Playing fast...

I looked at the solos... that may be what we want to play .....but I think we are supposed to wait for Ingrid to answer first.....

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Old 07-22-2007, 11:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Playing fast...

EXCUSE ME!! I'm just trying to help. Ingrid makes it to this message board about as often as Santa Claus.
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Roll on Christmas....................
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Playing fast...

I agree with Cornetguy. If you want to play fast you need to practice slow. Painfully slow. Strive to make you lines precise, accurate and smooth. Only when this is achieved should you work on gradully increasing the speed. but never sacrifice speed for accuracy. If you put speed first you end up sounding sloppy and out of control. Often when we heard the greats play they sound so smooth and confortable when they are playing fast that when you try to play the same thing back you then realized that they were playing even faster than you imagined.
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Re: Playing fast...

As far as basic articulation goes, you could doodle the 8th notes. This is how Clark Terry, Bill Watrous, and Carl Fontana did it. What works for me is to tongue the eighth notes on the + of each beat.
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Re: Playing fast...

Ingred is on the road a lot. She has mentioned on other threads that if she doesn't answer right away, others can jump in. It is better than waiting for a few days when she gets back.
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