Bach 1 1/2 B Mouthpiece

orchestra_trumpet_star · 04-13-2006, 06:39 AM

Hey all,
Sorry if this has been asked, but have any of you had any experience with the 1 1/2B mouthpiece? How did you like it (sound, projection, slotting, tonguing, ease of playing, etc)? What throat size, backbore number/model, etc did you use? Thanks in advance for your opinions and replies!
OTS

Vulgano Brother · 04-13-2006, 07:52 AM

Had a 1 1/2 C rim with a 1B 24/24 cup (sanded down to fit) and was dark but "woofy" but wanted some response along with my darker sound. Check out the offerings of Mark Curry: he has some impressive stuff if you are looking for that B sound, and he can give you the response and projection you want.

joey · 04-13-2006, 08:56 AM

Asking for people's opinions on mouthpieces is a little like asking for their opinion on shoes.

Would you like to try on my size 13 Adidas high tops? They work great for me.

Joey

Vulgano Brother · 04-13-2006, 09:39 AM

Are they made for basketball or handball? I wear a size 41 in Addidas, but lips aren't feet! As valid as your comment is, the orginal question is equally as valid and remains: what is your experience with a 1 1/2 B Mouthpiece?

joey · 04-13-2006, 01:26 PM

Actually, my response addresses the intent of the question. My experience with a 1 1/2B shouldn't encourage or discourage you from trying one.

I also find interesting the idea of a "B sound". What exactly is that?

Let's say I spent my time with a 1 1/2B playing lead in my every other Tuesday night big band gig. I'm fairly certain my experience would sound negative.

Let's say I'd been playing a 3C for years and years and had never had any problems, then decided to try a 1 1/2B. Again, I think my experience would be less than satisfying.

Let's say it was exactly the right piece for me. Does that mean it's exactly the right piece for anyone else?

There are better questions to ask, such as:

What are you playing now?

What kind of music are you playing?

What do you like and dislike about your current setup?

This is why I brought up shoes.

My shoes are basketball shoes. A 13 in U.S. sizes is in the 46/47 range in European sizes. If you put on mine, which I like, they're not going to fit you. However, if I'm in a tuxedo, they're the wrong shoes.

It's the same with mouthpieces. The right fit is not universal. That's why there's more than one mouthpiece made.

Joey

MJ · 04-13-2006, 01:54 PM

Are those the old school white ones joey? If so no thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey

Would you like to try on my size 13 Adidas high tops? They work great for me.

Joey

Vulgano Brother · 04-15-2006, 04:43 AM

Joey, your points are well taken!
You were right to unask the quetion. Since you asked, however, my take on a "B sound" is as follows: it gives you a Bb sound: plugged into a Bb the horn it will really sound like a Bb is supposed to sound like, plugged into a C it will sound like a Bb, plugged into an Eb or picc. or while playing lead will it will make us sound like wimps, but not as much as an A cup does.

I prefer my 1980's vintage white canvas Chuck Taylor Converse All Stars high-tops (size 6 1/2) for basketball, as long as we play by 1950 rules and no monster 7+ footer steps on my foot. I can't afford the "Air Vulgano" model yet, (they are sure to feel light and are sturdy at the same time, but not all coaches and fans like them).

R.A.S. · 04-15-2006, 08:57 PM

As was suggested, check out the Curry BC cupped mouthpieces.
Something like a 1.5BC or 1.25BC might be a good one to try first.
Look at Mark Curry's website for the size comparison chart - then order from Dillon's Music. The pieces are inexpensive, and I think that Dillon's even has a trial program. There might be a restocking fee, though.

As for the 1.5B that I have, the rim is the worst part - not the cup depth.

xTommyGirlx · 06-24-2009, 06:11 PM

It really depends on your history as a player, and what mouthpieces or horn type you use and such. I used a 1 1/2B and found it darkened my tone, and it currently is my ideal mouthpiece. Leading up to that, I had used a 3C megatone(bach).

I have played trumpet for 7 years. Initially I started on a 7C, used that for 4 1/2 years, switched to a 3C(Bach). I used the 3C for about 6 monthes and switched to a 3C megatone, and used that for a year and a half. I never had problems with the megatone, but I contantly strive for a better sound, so.. I borrowed a 1 1/2 C, alternating between that and my 3C regular bach for jazz band.. I liked it alot. My tone was beautiful, especially for only using a student model yamaha.

Vulgano Brother · 06-24-2009, 06:12 PM

Welcome to TM, xTommyGirlx!

04-13-2006, 06:39 AM	#1
orchestra_trumpet_star New Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 28	Bach 1 1/2 B Mouthpiece Hey all, Sorry if this has been asked, but have any of you had any experience with the 1 1/2B mouthpiece? How did you like it (sound, projection, slotting, tonguing, ease of playing, etc)? What throat size, backbore number/model, etc did you use? Thanks in advance for your opinions and replies! OTS __________________ What I Play Currently: Bach 37GH 25RH Kanstul 1510 Schilke P5-4 Yamaha 16C4-GP GR 67VC Schilke 11AX

04-13-2006, 07:52 AM	#2
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 4,253	Had a 1 1/2 C rim with a 1B 24/24 cup (sanded down to fit) and was dark but "woofy" but wanted some response along with my darker sound. Check out the offerings of Mark Curry: he has some impressive stuff if you are looking for that B sound, and he can give you the response and projection you want. __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

04-13-2006, 09:39 AM	#4
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 4,253	Are they made for basketball or handball? I wear a size 41 in Addidas, but lips aren't feet! As valid as your comment is, the orginal question is equally as valid and remains: what is your experience with a 1 1/2 B Mouthpiece? __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

04-15-2006, 04:43 AM	#7
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 4,253	Joey, your points are well taken! You were right to unask the quetion. Since you asked, however, my take on a "B sound" is as follows: it gives you a Bb sound: plugged into a Bb the horn it will really sound like a Bb is supposed to sound like, plugged into a C it will sound like a Bb, plugged into an Eb or picc. or while playing lead will it will make us sound like wimps, but not as much as an A cup does. I prefer my 1980's vintage white canvas Chuck Taylor Converse All Stars high-tops (size 6 1/2) for basketball, as long as we play by 1950 rules and no monster 7+ footer steps on my foot. I can't afford the "Air Vulgano" model yet, (they are sure to feel light and are sturdy at the same time, but not all coaches and fans like them). __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

04-15-2006, 08:57 PM	#8
R.A.S. Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Woodbury, Minnesota Posts: 161	As was suggested, check out the Curry BC cupped mouthpieces. Something like a 1.5BC or 1.25BC might be a good one to try first. Look at Mark Curry's website for the size comparison chart - then order from Dillon's Music. The pieces are inexpensive, and I think that Dillon's even has a trial program. There might be a restocking fee, though. As for the 1.5B that I have, the rim is the worst part - not the cup depth. __________________ Ray

04-13-2006, 08:56 AM	#3
joey Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bloomington Posts: 71	Asking for people's opinions on mouthpieces is a little like asking for their opinion on shoes. Would you like to try on my size 13 Adidas high tops? They work great for me. Joey

04-13-2006, 01:26 PM	#5
joey Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bloomington Posts: 71	Actually, my response addresses the intent of the question. My experience with a 1 1/2B shouldn't encourage or discourage you from trying one. I also find interesting the idea of a "B sound". What exactly is that? Let's say I spent my time with a 1 1/2B playing lead in my every other Tuesday night big band gig. I'm fairly certain my experience would sound negative. Let's say I'd been playing a 3C for years and years and had never had any problems, then decided to try a 1 1/2B. Again, I think my experience would be less than satisfying. Let's say it was exactly the right piece for me. Does that mean it's exactly the right piece for anyone else? There are better questions to ask, such as: What are you playing now? What kind of music are you playing? What do you like and dislike about your current setup? This is why I brought up shoes. My shoes are basketball shoes. A 13 in U.S. sizes is in the 46/47 range in European sizes. If you put on mine, which I like, they're not going to fit you. However, if I'm in a tuxedo, they're the wrong shoes. It's the same with mouthpieces. The right fit is not universal. That's why there's more than one mouthpiece made. Joey

06-24-2009, 06:11 PM	#9
xTommyGirlx New Friend Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3	Re: Bach 1 1/2 B Mouthpiece It really depends on your history as a player, and what mouthpieces or horn type you use and such. I used a 1 1/2B and found it darkened my tone, and it currently is my ideal mouthpiece. Leading up to that, I had used a 3C megatone(bach). I have played trumpet for 7 years. Initially I started on a 7C, used that for 4 1/2 years, switched to a 3C(Bach). I used the 3C for about 6 monthes and switched to a 3C megatone, and used that for a year and a half. I never had problems with the megatone, but I contantly strive for a better sound, so.. I borrowed a 1 1/2 C, alternating between that and my 3C regular bach for jazz band.. I liked it alot. My tone was beautiful, especially for only using a student model yamaha.

06-24-2009, 06:12 PM	#10
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 4,253	Re: Bach 1 1/2 B Mouthpiece Welcome to TM, xTommyGirlx! __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

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