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Old 12-01-2006, 04:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bach vs Monette

I have recently started playing again after 40 years(yikes).I play on a Yamaha YTR 734S (current model YTR 6335S) and use a Bach 1C mouthpiece. I do not have the chops any longer for the Bach 1C. I will be playing mostly jazz combo gigs. Talking to a number of people they recommended a Bach 3C, or Bach mega 3C. However after reading comments on this site and others lots of people seem to like the Monette. I am looking for a mp that I can get a big, fat sound and move relatively easily from below the staff to high C. I realize the sound comes mostly from t;he concept in my head and the mp is a personal preference. However I am very interest in hearing your suggestions and expertise on mouthpieces, especially the two brands I mentioned. I am no longer a struggling student so price does not enter into the equation.

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Old 12-01-2006, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A good Monette mouthpiece to try is a B4S. It's similar in rim size and shape to a Bach 3C. It's a good all around mouthpiece. You can play it anywhere.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have recently started playing again after 40 years(yikes).I play on a Yamaha YTR 734S (current model YTR 6335S) and use a Bach 1C mouthpiece. I do not have the chops any longer for the Bach 1C. I will be playing mostly jazz combo gigs. Talking to a number of people they recommended a Bach 3C, or Bach mega 3C. However after reading comments on this site and others lots of people seem to like the Monette. I am looking for a mp that I can get a big, fat sound and move relatively easily from below the staff to high C. I realize the sound comes mostly from t;he concept in my head and the mp is a personal preference. However I am very interest in hearing your suggestions and expertise on mouthpieces, especially the two brands I mentioned. I am no longer a struggling student so price does not enter into the equation.

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Some of the most grueling work for a trumpeter is jazz combo work, you are playing all the time.
Sorry, there is no "Magic Bullet." 1C, 3C or B4S all require work. Work on endurance is a must. Clarke, Schlossberg, Colin are the tools most players use to get chops, Chops
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks Wilmer,

Clark, Schlossberg and Colin are old friends.

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Old 12-03-2006, 11:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wilmer,

Why I appreciate your comment on how to get chops that was not my question. My question was about mouthpieces. What mp do you play on and why?

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Thanks, How long have you been playing on it? What were you playing on before?

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Old 12-03-2006, 11:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hey, everybody looking at the post.HELP What kind of mp/size etc. are you playing on and why? Would be interesting to read what everybody is playing on and why.

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I play a middle of the road mouthpiece and I expect most others do as well because that is what works for most people. Finding out what other people play probably won't help you much, you need to try things out to find out what works best for you.
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The 1C is a great mouthpiece. I played on one for 20 years. I switched over to Monette B1-2 because my playing has changed alot. I notice a big difference in the way I can relax into notes (especially on top of the staff), color my timbre, and how efficiently I can play.
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I went from a a 1C to a Schilke 18 and then to a Monette B2. Both switches helped my upper register although that was not the reason for change. I changed because they were respectively easier to play and I liked the sound. The Bach 1C is most suitable for people that practice a lot. The B2 is more forgiving (it is actually closer in size to the 1 1/4 Bach).
I will disagree with the concept that the "majority" of the sound comes from your head. Listen to Manny Laureano on the Monette site play all the different Prana instruments. They all "sound" different-although Manny has monster chops and a solid sound concept. The definition of sound has less to do with absolute difference of "color" and more with your own personal "style" that comes through.
What I am trying to say is that switching from the 1C to Schilke changed my "sound" and from Schilke to Monette came another change. Listening to recordings of my playing, I consider both switches to have been very "positive". After 30 years of not playing the 1C, I tried it again a couple of weeks ago and can say that I have no desire to go back. That "sound" is not what I want.
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