ozboy

I'm currently playing a 15c4 and am thinking about trying a Bobby Shew Jazz (Yamaha). I am a Jazz player and think that the different backbore may help. Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has tried a Bobby Shew Jazz and a standard 14c or 15c and can tell me about their thoughts.

Trumpet1Ohio

Well, in addition to the much shallower cup and tighter backbore, the Shew's going to be quite a bit smaller diameter. It will take some getting used to...pretty significant change. I play on a Shew and switch off with a Bach 7D or 7C depending on the type of playing I'm doing. The 7's are fairly comparable to the Yamaha 11B4 or 11C4.

For me.. I really like the sound I get with the Shew.

Good luck

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ozboy

Thanks for your reply. I am looking at the Jazz, not the lead.
The stats. read
inner cup rim throat
Standard 16.97 med semiflat/ 3.65

Shew 16.85 med semiround 3.65

I believe the difference is a slightly more open backbore. I was wondering if anyone has played both and if the backbore makes a significant difference as most other stats. ar fairly similar

rowuk

Ozboy,
the BIGGEST difference is the rim shape. Going from a semi-flat (more "grip") to semi-round (much less grip) will be a bigger challenge than any difference in backbore or cup!
YOU need to play this thing-it is VERY different than your present piece, no advice can let you know how it will "feel".
There is no such thing as a "jazz" mouthpiece or sound. There is a Freddie, Wynton, Miles, Maynard,............... sound and that is a combination of flesh, soul and brass. Switching mouthpieces will not bring you closer to these monsters or "jazzier" but may slow your development down!
If you want a brighter sound or more flexibility, there are things that you can consider. The marketing people put the word "jazz" in the description for a specific purpose, and that has NOTHING to do with music!

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ozboy

I am not looking at the mouthpiece because of its name. I am happy with the flexibility and range etc that I have on the 15c4. Most of my work is small ensemble mainstream Jazz gigs. I was hoping that the different backbore might give me a slightly warmer sound. I am geographically in a difficult spot to try mouthpieces. The strong Aus. Dollar means that it is time to have a punt on something. It would cost me more in petrol/gas to get to a store to try than buying half a dozen mouthpieces

trumpetnick

Ozboy,

How about using the Mouthpiece Express? I've heard that they have some kind of return policy... Good luck!

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ozboy

Thanks. The problem is that postage and customs can be a bit of a hassle. A lot of American companies have a 30 day return policy. Often that is an unachievable deadline as it takes three weeks to get here and I assume it would take about the same to get back.

rowuk

Ozboy,
the problem is the significantly different rim. The published measurements do not give you any idea about how it will feel. If you don't mind starting a collection, buy a bunch and go for it. The cup depth will change "warmness", the backbore is calculated to make the rest work.
I think the standard 15C will give you a slightly "larger" sound and let more air through. There will be no need for adjusting your chops as the rim is the same!

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fleebat

Hi Ozboy

I understand being geographically challenged when it comes to trying out gear. I have a Yamaha Shew Jazz that I don't use. I liken it to a Bach 3C with somewhat less inner-rim bite and maybe a slightly shallower cup. For me, it's brighter than a 3C and not as "secure" in nailing stuff. As everyone's chops are different, it might work for you. If you'll contact me offline, I'll work out sending it to you. If you like it, it's yours. I only have about 75 mouthpieces... guess I could part with one. SOMEONE in this country has to take some positive steps with regard to international relations, right?

RR

ozboy

That is a very, very kind offer. I really appreciate it.A couple of days ago, before receiving you email, I ordered a Shew Jazz and a flugel horn equivalent. I am hoping they will work out. Today I looked on ebay Australia and there was a new one listed for $12 buy now $40. My timing was terrible.
Your kind offer is very much appreciated. I hope your kindness is repaid in some way. I'll post to tell you how it goes. I've got a good feeling........