chuck

i am playing the bach 3c which is a good mid sized mouthpiece, not large, not small, with the goal of playing sweet jazz and still being able to scream a little. it is a very satisfactory mouthpiece, no problems, comfortable on the lips.
question is, is there any improvement from newer designs. is there a monette or curry that makes playing easier or better? i am flexible as to diameter. thank god i'm not legitimate. i didn't say that .

Eclipsehornplayer

Chuck,

Not sure what you looking to do...

I used to play the Bach 3C. I went to the Monette B4S which is about the same rim size but no comparison when it comes to sound. One of the best equipment changes I've ever made!

For what it's worth...

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GR & Monette mouthpieces

cornetguy

imo if the 3c is working for you, and you are getting the sound you want, don't mess with what works.

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chuck

not trying to do anything much more than have better equipment. e.g. with the monette mouthpieces, they are touted as being able to play with less effort, or more relaxed, and being an advancement over earlier designs. i'll look into the b4s. my guess would be that some sort of mouthpiece change would be beneficial.

Tootsall

Just a thought Chuck. Have you considered getting someone who knows you and your playing to comment? A teacher? Have you popped into the local brass emporium and fooled around with the different mouthpieces that they might have available?

If you are really convinced that your mouthpiece is a problem then I'd strongly recommend finding someone with a Warburton dealer's kit and/or maybe filling out the GR questionaire and talking to one of their reps. While it is true that Monette has a very expensive mouthpiece that many people really "get along with", not everyone is necessarily suited, nor even needing, such a mouthpiece.

I'd suggest thinking logically about this if I were you: that kind of money (for GR or Monette or whatever) sometimes is better spent at a teacher's studio! Every player/horn combo will react differently to a different mouthpiece. Taking direct advice from the internet from people who've never heard you play is kinda like pouring money down the sewer: in most cases you'll not get it back!

Eclipsehornplayer

Ed makes some very good points Chuck...

I didn't make a change in mouthpieces until after I had started to study with a reputable teacher (Alex Yates) in my case.

Monette mouthpieces do make one heck of a difference once you work through the initial break in period of about 2 weeks in my case; but they can be a financial burden for sure.

Before making any change; know what it is you want to change. This is where a reputable teacher is priceless!

Just some food for thought!

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Eclipse MHY Bb Trumpet with interchangable leadpipes
Bach 229 25A C Trumpet
Getzen Capri Bb Cornet
GR & Monette mouthpieces

chuck

thinking about this a little more a shallower cup mouthpiece comes to mind. i'll chat up mark curry on something with the 3c cup diameter or a little bigger with a shallower cup, getting towards something physically easier to play, while hopefully not being excessively bright all the time.
the few lessons i took in the 80s were less than scintillating and mostly a waste of time and money. i learned the horn initially by picking it up and blowing it. with a little time put in for embochure development, and being more discerning in choice of teachers, a few trumpet lessons could happen in the future.
i lived a few miles from louis armstrong's house in corona queens growing up, you can only imagine the players that were available to learn jazz from....if i wasn't a piano student, and generally dense. found the trumpet in my 30s and the denseness persisted finding lackluster teachers. this whole process is taking me a while. maybe by age 60 i can get things together.

Eclipsehornplayer

Wow,

That's really something....

I love Louis Armstrong's music he was one of my heros growing up.

Sounds like you know what you want to do; just find a cost effective way to get there.

You may want to thy Jetone mouthpieces. They have quite a few offerings with which to choose from that are very reasonable price wise.

I'd personally adivise you to stay away from thier Maynard Ferguson mouthpiece as it has no rim and plays sharp as hell!

I used their 10D for a bit and it worked for lead work fairly well.

Hope this helps.

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Eclipse MHY Bb Trumpet with interchangable leadpipes
Bach 229 25A C Trumpet
Getzen Capri Bb Cornet
GR & Monette mouthpieces

chuck

his 7c, 50m, 50tf would all work well, i'll have mark advise further. seem to be a crack bigger than the bach 3 size.
hard not to like louis as a player or a person.
thanks for the advice!