Cornet Mouthpiece

MahlerBrass · 10-15-2006, 12:24 AM

Howdy all, I'm doing a Clarke cornet solo (The Debutante) on my recital, and I wanted a mouthpiece that gave me a darker, more "cornety" sound. I currently play on a Mt Vernon cornet, which is already a brighter cornet than average, on a stock 1C mouthpiece, which is actually a bit too big for what I'd like. My prof recommended the Wick 2B mouthpiece, which I liked the sound on, but it fought the upper register even moreso than my 1C, and I was also looking at the Curry 1.5VC. So, any recommendations on which of these two, or others you'd like to chime in with would get the job done best? Anything helps, thanks!

BudBix · 10-15-2006, 09:22 AM

I haven't played these but they might be worth looking at:
http://www.sparxmusic.com/cnt_produc...uthpiece.shtml

Also you might want to try Bach B and no letter cups. If you are set on the 1 sizes, they make a 1.5B and 1X. Next smaller is 2, 3 and 3B. I play a Wick 3B and so do some of the front row cornets in my brass band, they don't seem to have any issues with range but they have been playing on them for some time.

Tootsall · 10-15-2006, 10:50 AM

Unlike Budbix, I have played on a Sparx and currently have one. They do produce a sound much like the Denis Wick but whether or not it's a good match for your Mt. Vernon is difficult to say (I'm using it on my Eterna 800). Bud was right on when he suggested that you go to the website for Sparx; Ted has a good set of sound clips on there. Just bear in mind that those sounds are from the "Brass band" style of playing however and may not represent the sound concept of Clarke.

rowuk · 10-16-2006, 07:54 AM

How much time do you have until your recital? A new deeper mouthpiece will take some getting used to. Make sure that it is worth the risk. You will more likely be remembered for cracked notes that are possible if you are not comfortable, than with a "warmer" or "darker" sound.
That being said..... I switched 2 weeks before my final recital (1974) in college from a Bach 1C to a Schilke 18 and it was like pulling a cork out. Everything fit better, sound, flexibilty and attack. I switched again before a heavy duty concert from the Schilke to a Monette B2. That switch took a bit more time - I made it through the concert and after 3-4 weeks I was able to realize the benefits as advertised.

Cornet1 · 10-16-2006, 09:55 AM

A DW 2B is too big for most cornet soloists here in the UK,...the most used size is 4 and 4B. GR are good mpcs but quite expensive,...Sparx is also a GR mpc but is VERY expensive. DW are excellent and used by some of the best cornet soloists and are only about 1/4 the price of exotics makes.

Dale Proctor · 10-16-2006, 09:58 AM

Try a Bach 6 or 6BM. Both have a 24 backbore and the 6 BM has a larger throat. Very nice cornet mouthpieces, and cheap to try.

cornetguy · 10-16-2006, 12:36 PM

i have a wick 2 and 2b i really like the sound on them but hate the rims. thinking of having mr. laskey make me a 75 rim on the 2 cup someday. now play on Laskey 75DB which works well for me.

MGTrumpet · 10-19-2006, 10:16 PM

When I got my Schilke XA1 about five years ago I picked up a Bach 5V mouthpiece and I fell in love with it. I can't imagine using anything else on that horn. You might give one a try.

Tpt_Guy · 10-30-2006, 01:55 AM

Try a Curry VC Mouthpiece (or a Flip Oaks cornet mouthpiece - also made by Curry). They're based on some of the mouthpieces of the American cornet soloists so they would probably more closely approximate the type of sound Clarke or his contemporaries would have achieved on their instruments. They are a bit brighter than Wick mouthpieces but produce a great sound.

Wick mouthpieces sound fantastic, but to me they're a bit more "British" in sound than a piece like "The Debutante" would call for.

Just my $.02.

-Tom

DCB · 11-24-2006, 07:20 PM

Try the Warburton BC.
http://www.warburton-usa.com/cornetpage.htm
Best cornet sound I have played.

10-15-2006, 12:24 AM	#1
MahlerBrass Piano User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 371	Cornet Mouthpiece Howdy all, I'm doing a Clarke cornet solo (The Debutante) on my recital, and I wanted a mouthpiece that gave me a darker, more "cornety" sound. I currently play on a Mt Vernon cornet, which is already a brighter cornet than average, on a stock 1C mouthpiece, which is actually a bit too big for what I'd like. My prof recommended the Wick 2B mouthpiece, which I liked the sound on, but it fought the upper register even moreso than my 1C, and I was also looking at the Curry 1.5VC. So, any recommendations on which of these two, or others you'd like to chime in with would get the job done best? Anything helps, thanks! __________________ Music isn't a career, it's a way of life.

10-15-2006, 09:22 AM	#2
BudBix Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 178	I haven't played these but they might be worth looking at: http://www.sparxmusic.com/cnt_produc...uthpiece.shtml Also you might want to try Bach B and no letter cups. If you are set on the 1 sizes, they make a 1.5B and 1X. Next smaller is 2, 3 and 3B. I play a Wick 3B and so do some of the front row cornets in my brass band, they don't seem to have any issues with range but they have been playing on them for some time. __________________ Men govern nothing with more difficulty than their tongues, and can moderate their desires more than their words. - Baruch Spinoza Last edited by BudBix; 10-15-2006 at 09:31 AM.

10-16-2006, 07:54 AM	#4
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,365	How much time do you have until your recital? A new deeper mouthpiece will take some getting used to. Make sure that it is worth the risk. You will more likely be remembered for cracked notes that are possible if you are not comfortable, than with a "warmer" or "darker" sound. That being said..... I switched 2 weeks before my final recital (1974) in college from a Bach 1C to a Schilke 18 and it was like pulling a cork out. Everything fit better, sound, flexibilty and attack. I switched again before a heavy duty concert from the Schilke to a Monette B2. That switch took a bit more time - I made it through the concert and after 3-4 weeks I was able to realize the benefits as advertised. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

10-16-2006, 09:58 AM	#6
Dale Proctor Forte User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Posts: 1,125	Try a Bach 6 or 6BM. Both have a 24 backbore and the 6 BM has a larger throat. Very nice cornet mouthpieces, and cheap to try. __________________ Olde Towne Brass www.otbrass.com Brass Band of Huntsville www.brassbandofhuntsville.org "Hit it hard and wish it well." - Claude Gordon

10-16-2006, 12:36 PM	#7
cornetguy Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 788	i have a wick 2 and 2b i really like the sound on them but hate the rims. thinking of having mr. laskey make me a 75 rim on the 2 cup someday. now play on Laskey 75DB which works well for me. __________________ Per aspera ad astra

10-15-2006, 10:50 AM	#3
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Unlike Budbix, I have played on a Sparx and currently have one. They do produce a sound much like the Denis Wick but whether or not it's a good match for your Mt. Vernon is difficult to say (I'm using it on my Eterna 800). Bud was right on when he suggested that you go to the website for Sparx; Ted has a good set of sound clips on there. Just bear in mind that those sounds are from the "Brass band" style of playing however and may not represent the sound concept of Clarke.

10-16-2006, 09:55 AM	#5
Cornet1 Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Essex, England Posts: 210	A DW 2B is too big for most cornet soloists here in the UK,...the most used size is 4 and 4B. GR are good mpcs but quite expensive,...Sparx is also a GR mpc but is VERY expensive. DW are excellent and used by some of the best cornet soloists and are only about 1/4 the price of exotics makes.

10-19-2006, 10:16 PM	#8
MGTrumpet New Friend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maple Grove, MN Posts: 27	When I got my Schilke XA1 about five years ago I picked up a Bach 5V mouthpiece and I fell in love with it. I can't imagine using anything else on that horn. You might give one a try.

10-30-2006, 01:55 AM	#9
Tpt_Guy New Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 7	Try a Curry VC Mouthpiece (or a Flip Oaks cornet mouthpiece - also made by Curry). They're based on some of the mouthpieces of the American cornet soloists so they would probably more closely approximate the type of sound Clarke or his contemporaries would have achieved on their instruments. They are a bit brighter than Wick mouthpieces but produce a great sound. Wick mouthpieces sound fantastic, but to me they're a bit more "British" in sound than a piece like "The Debutante" would call for. Just my $.02. -Tom

11-24-2006, 07:20 PM	#10
DCB Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: N. Florida Posts: 175	Try the Warburton BC. http://www.warburton-usa.com/cornetpage.htm Best cornet sound I have played. __________________ dcb <>< John 14:6 Kanstul/ Najoom French Besson Holton Collegiate Conn 80A Amati flugelhorn

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