curry consistency

omelet · 02-21-2008, 02:56 AM

I got one curry mouthpiece to try and I liked it, so I got another with a different cup, but they feel like the rims are different in inside diameter and possibly shape between the two.
I thought that these were supposed to have the same rims for every cup in the same number?

SteelyDan · 02-21-2008, 08:19 AM

Omelet,
The difference in feel that you're experiencing probably has more to do with the difference in undercut, or alpha angle between the two cups. Although Curry mouthpieces are very consistent in their quality control, the Curry website also mentions that the undercut is gradually reduced to give more support in the upper register. When you gradually reduce the first slope into the cup you get more literal support, more contact with the lips, and a brighter sound. The rims may be the same but the two mouthpieces will feel different because of the increased contact with your lips, different shape of the cups, not because of a lack of quality control. By the way, if you went to a deeper cup the change in feel would be in the opposite direction fro what I described earlier. What mouthpieces are you using right now? If they're close enough to each other there shouldn't be an issue with switching, but if they're very different in cup volume that may throw you off. Also, are you studying with anyone right now? A private teacher can help you through any potential embouchure problems that you may be experiencing. Have a good day.

Dan

cmg · 02-21-2008, 08:30 AM

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but it struck me funny that a thread entitled "curry consistency" was begun by someone with a user name of "omelet". I was thinking this belonged in the food forum...

Oh, never mind...back to the woodshed for me...

Chris

bachstrad72 · 02-21-2008, 08:53 AM

Are the mouthpieces in the 3 series? If so, I believe that Mark may have changed the specs on the 3 series a few years ago and you could have mouthpieces from different eras

JustinSmith · 02-21-2008, 10:27 AM

I have played Curry mouthpieces for years and would switch back and forth between the C & ZM cups. They rims felt exactly the same.

I believe his mouthpieces are among the most consistent, among mouthpiece makers.

Perry is correct if they are in his 3 rim series from different times. His older 3 rims were based off of Mt Vernon Bach 3 rims which are a little bigger. In 2004, in response to request, he changed his 3 rim to be more like a modern Bach 3 in diameter.

omelet · 02-21-2008, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelyDan

Omelet,
The difference in feel that you're experiencing probably has more to do with the difference in undercut, or alpha angle between the two cups. Although Curry mouthpieces are very consistent in their quality control, the Curry website also mentions that the undercut is gradually reduced to give more support in the upper register. When you gradually reduce the first slope into the cup you get more literal support, more contact with the lips, and a brighter sound. The rims may be the same but the two mouthpieces will feel different because of the increased contact with your lips, different shape of the cups, not because of a lack of quality control. By the way, if you went to a deeper cup the change in feel would be in the opposite direction fro what I described earlier. What mouthpieces are you using right now? If they're close enough to each other there shouldn't be an issue with switching, but if they're very different in cup volume that may throw you off. Also, are you studying with anyone right now? A private teacher can help you through any potential embouchure problems that you may be experiencing. Have a good day.

Dan

Who said I have embouchure problems? I can easily switch between these two but was commenting on my disappointment in them being different. I believe they are not the same diameter from visual inspection and feel. I fail to see why it should look and feel so different between the different cups only from alpha angle. Either way, what is the point of being consistent if all the mouthpieces of a number feel like different sizes? It's not like I need more than one of the exact same mouthpiece. They pretty much last forever.

And no, they are not the 3 series

misty.sj · 02-21-2008, 10:52 AM

Why not contact Curry about this?

02-21-2008, 02:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
omelet Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: charleston, sc Posts: 73	curry consistency I got one curry mouthpiece to try and I liked it, so I got another with a different cup, but they feel like the rims are different in inside diameter and possibly shape between the two. I thought that these were supposed to have the same rims for every cup in the same number?

02-21-2008, 08:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
SteelyDan Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 100	Re: curry consistency Omelet, The difference in feel that you're experiencing probably has more to do with the difference in undercut, or alpha angle between the two cups. Although Curry mouthpieces are very consistent in their quality control, the Curry website also mentions that the undercut is gradually reduced to give more support in the upper register. When you gradually reduce the first slope into the cup you get more literal support, more contact with the lips, and a brighter sound. The rims may be the same but the two mouthpieces will feel different because of the increased contact with your lips, different shape of the cups, not because of a lack of quality control. By the way, if you went to a deeper cup the change in feel would be in the opposite direction fro what I described earlier. What mouthpieces are you using right now? If they're close enough to each other there shouldn't be an issue with switching, but if they're very different in cup volume that may throw you off. Also, are you studying with anyone right now? A private teacher can help you through any potential embouchure problems that you may be experiencing. Have a good day. Dan
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02-21-2008, 08:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
cmg Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 53	Re: curry consistency Not meaning to hijack the thread, but it struck me funny that a thread entitled "curry consistency" was begun by someone with a user name of "omelet". I was thinking this belonged in the food forum... Oh, never mind...back to the woodshed for me... Chris

02-21-2008, 08:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
bachstrad72 Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Philly Brand: Bach, G & W Posts: 174	Re: curry consistency Are the mouthpieces in the 3 series? If so, I believe that Mark may have changed the specs on the 3 series a few years ago and you could have mouthpieces from different eras
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02-21-2008, 10:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
JustinSmith Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC, in Europe for summer Posts: 248	Re: curry consistency I have played Curry mouthpieces for years and would switch back and forth between the C & ZM cups. They rims felt exactly the same. I believe his mouthpieces are among the most consistent, among mouthpiece makers. Perry is correct if they are in his 3 rim series from different times. His older 3 rims were based off of Mt Vernon Bach 3 rims which are a little bigger. In 2004, in response to request, he changed his 3 rim to be more like a modern Bach 3 in diameter.
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02-21-2008, 10:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
misty.sj Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 599	Re: curry consistency Why not contact Curry about this?
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