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Old 04-29-2009, 10:32 PM   #1
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Difference between..

What are the difference between the Callet superchop 2, curry 600, and the parduba?

They all have a double cup design but they are different manufacturer and a different outer design. I keep hearing things like, "Callet is so much more advanced than parduba, etc"

Is there really a sound or any other drastic differences between these mouthpieces?

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I not on hunt on another safari, to whom who will most likely suggest I should just keep my old mouthpiece, It's just a question out of curiosity.
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Re: Difference between..

Sungman,
where do you "keep hearing" such things? I am sure it is only from a couple of brand blind players. It sure is not backed up by fact.

Every manufacturer has a story to tell, but nobody has found the holy grail. There are infinite variations on mouthpiece dimensions and every manufacturer has their own "R+D" which consists more of experimentation than real measurement of face geometry and air velocity. The only thing that really can be determined is how YOU get along with design X.
I play Monette mouthpieces because I experience Dave has solved some of the problems that I feel are in other designs. This does not mean that I recommend them to anybody. I can only report what some of my students and I have discovered.

My advice: ignore the ads, they were not written with your best interests in mind. They were written to generate INCOME. Once that you have played all of these pieces, you can tell us how you tested and what results that YOU came up with.

Don't forget that our bodies are not very consistent, so our opinions about hardware generally are only valid around the time that we play test. The next day can produce different results! That is why I think we need 6 months to determine if a hardware change is good or not.
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Rowuk, I understand that 99% of trumpet player is the player, not the equipment, but if Monette can sell their mouthpieces for 10X the price of normal mouthpieces, then it HAS to be better. If you are rich and have $200 dollars to throw around, then definitely get a Monette, even if you don't notice any difference between that and a standard Bach.
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Rowuk, I understand that 99% of trumpet player is the player, not the equipment, but if Monette can sell their mouthpieces for 10X the price of normal mouthpieces, then it HAS to be better. If you are rich and have $200 dollars to throw around, then definitely get a Monette, even if you don't notice any difference between that and a standard Bach.
My Monette mouthpiece works FOR ME - it makes me concentrate on reducing tension. I don't know if it is psychological. After all, 90% of trumpetting is in the head - the other 50% is mental, but I believe I have 'advanced' with my Monette B6. I don't propose you all buy Monette equipment - that is a conundrum you will need to master individually.

Consider the poor old Aussie though - USD$200 is equivalent to AUD$274.67. A Benge 7C costs AUD$73 so that means that the Monette is only 4x the Benge. I've seen it here on TM a million times - please don't exagerate.
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After all, 90% of trumpetting is in the head - the other 50% is mental,
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My Monette mouthpiece works FOR ME - it makes me concentrate on reducing tension. I don't know if it is psychological. After all, 90% of trumpetting is in the head - the other 50% is mental
Aussies have a funny feeling of maths...they must have big heads to give home of 140% mentality
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It's part of the Technical Trainer's credo -
"Don't cloud a good story with the facts."

(Thinks: That seems to have grabbed their attention.)
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Don't buy the Superchops 2. Haven't you read that it's totally blown away by Superchops 3? Hold onto your money a few months more, and you may be able to grab an SC4.
Disclaimer: I've got an SC2, and it's a good mouthpiece. I'm slightly ticked that Jerry either can't get it right the first time, or can't seem to quit coming up with irresistible improvements to sell more mouthpieces, but it's still a good one and I'm not lining up to get SC3. I've also got a whole array of Pardubas, and they're equally good as long as you don't go for too small a diameter. The same goes for the Curry, Reeves, Stork, Asymmetric, Schilke, and unfortunately legions more mouthpieces I've accumulated. Most of them are just fine. Pick one that fits you well and save your money, unlike me.
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The biggest diff between the Callet and the Parduba is about $180.00
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Rowuk, I understand that 99% of trumpet player is the player, not the equipment, but if Monette can sell their mouthpieces for 10X the price of normal mouthpieces, then it HAS to be better. If you are rich and have $200 dollars to throw around, then definitely get a Monette, even if you don't notice any difference between that and a standard Bach.
oohhh noooo,

cost of goods NEVER made ANYTHING better. I know a bunch of players that could not get the Monette mouthpiece to work for them. Not because the mp or players are bad, but because one size does not fit all. If anybody has $200 to throw around and does, they are just stupid.

I am sold on the concept, but that is me and my playing style and sound concept. I only recommend mouthpieces to people that I personally work with and not always Monette. I can tell within a couple of weeks if we are wasting our time or not.

The Monettes mouthpieces cost what they do because they are part of Dave Monettes business plan. He has around 10 employees and they build 6 instruments a month. The rest of the costs (R+D, rent, insurance, flying all over to concerts to hear the instruments being played,............)have to be covered by mouthpiece sales.
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