wingman

Hello All - I have a new Bach Strad 37 (just the standard horn, no lightweight bell or reverse leadpipe) and I was informed that I should get a heavy valve cap on the 3rd valve only. Anyone have experience with experiments with heavy caps? What happens?

Principaltrumpet

I play with heavy Curry CAPPS on my Bach soloist. The horn slots better and tends to center on pitch better than it does with out it. However, since I got my new Bb I don't play that horn much. So, if you would like to try them out before you buy them and a local music store does not carry them PM me and i am sure we can work something out.
JR

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MFfan

You might search for prior threads on this subject here, or on TH. There have been extensive discussion and opinions that would help you, or confuse you! I have a set of heavy Bach brand caps that I use on my Barrington and use all 3 at the present time. I sense a tone darkening and better slotting. I have also used the 3rd valve only conversion at times. Many also put a penny or dime in the standard cap to add the weight. The Bach ones are the least expensive ones around, but not real heavy weights like the Harrelsons.

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rowuk

My take is that adding weight does not make the trumpet BETTER unless it was designed with that weight in mind. What it does do is trades off some characteristics for others.

My experience with weights on standard Bach Bb and C trumpets is that the slots are tighter but the intonation and upper octave is worse. Many players then get a bored out throat on the mouthpiece which then makes the slots less prominent and the intonation "bendable". As far as I am concerned - no improvement. But then again, a pimped trumpet makes the player feel better and we trumpet players are MASTERS of self deception!

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ewetho

It is known to change feel a bit and that makes it different not better. If you like it, then better if not NO.

Some find you may like just one heavy cap on 3 or 1 and 2 does not do a lot.

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Pedal C

Depending on you and your horn, it may make a difference and it may not. And that difference may be better and if my not be! Trying it out, with trusted listeners in a good room and/or in your normal playing situations is the only way to really know.

In my trials, sometime the horn FEELS better, but the sound to a listener isn't as rich. Other horns I've tried it with sound the same or better, you just never know.

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tedh1951

Now all we need is a "Mistress of Deception" - the mind boggles.

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cornetguy

I tried them once and found the horn wasn't as free blowing, they became expensive paperweights

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MJ

Who told you that.

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