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Old 05-22-2007, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kanstul comparator

Hi,

I was just wondering if anyone knew just how accurate this thing is? I was checking out the Warburton designs and it shows the 4M and 4S pieces as being identical, is this right?
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi,

I was just wondering if anyone knew just how accurate this thing is? I was checking out the Warburton designs and it shows the 4M and 4S pieces as being identical, is this right?
It shows the S as being slightly shallower, although you have to look *very* closely.
Put the "M" on the left, then the "M" on the right, then toggle the left between the "M" and the "S" to see the difference.
(Toggle the *left* because it will automatically be in the same position when a new outline is chosen)

It also shows the Bach 7D and 7E as being smaller diameter as Bach 7, although Bach claims that they are the same diameter.

How accurate is the Comparator?
I don't know, but I rely on it a lot.
Even if it iwere to have an error + or - 5 percent it is still a big help.

I always keep in mind that Kanstul was measuring just one mouthpiece and there is no guarantee that the individual mouthpiece is truly representative of all mouthpieces bearing that size number.

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Old 05-23-2007, 10:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Kanstul comparator

I did what you suggested and did notice a slight difference this time!! Thanks!!

I was really checking cuz according to the Curry website, the 60M cup is closest to the 4S in the Warburton range, I play a Warburton 4M at the mo and was thinking of trying out the Curry.

Can anyone tell me what the difference is like between these pieces?

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I have found it to be quite reliable, nothing is perfect..................
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Re: Kanstul comparator

The comparator is probably as accurate as the one example of each mouthpiece they used to make the picture. With some companies, the diameter and rim shape have fluxuated from time to time over the years, so their picture of a "3C," or whatever probably won't represent every single one that exists. The more consistant the company that's making them is, the more accurate the Kanstul thing can be.

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Re: Kanstul comparator

Even if 2 different mouthpieces have almost identical measurements, they may not "feel" even close to one another. The rim size is just a number: depending on the sharpness, where the high spot is or the width of the rim, we will perceive a great difference in playability.
If you have a good working mouthpiece, play before you pay - unless collecting is a hobby.
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The scans are low resolution.
They did some work for me and sent me the high resolution versions of ones I was looking at.
They were identical on the web site but quite different in high resolution.
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Re: Kanstul comparator

I know the Warburton and the Curry are gonna feel totally different, I was just wondering if anyone knew what they looked like side by side, their opinions on the rim differences etc..

I'd live to try one out before i spend the money but they dont seem to have any UK dealers i can go to.
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Warburton are available from PHil Parker.
However the cost is so high you might be better going to Musikhaus Thomann Cyberstore Eingang
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If you have a good working mouthpiece, play before you pay - unless collecting is a hobby.
I never buy a MP without trying. Spada lets me have a bunch of mouthpieces and choose one of them, send back the rest. I know that some other stores do the same. The Kanstul comparator is just a tool which may give you a general idea about MP sizes, nothing more, IMHO
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