Sungman

I was thinking about ordering one of these, especially since its getting cold and was wondering, if the kelly 3c is identical to the bach 3c? If not, can anyone tell me the difference? And I don't mean it material or weight, I mean the rim contour and the cup depth.

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Benge 90b-SP - bach 1-1/2c
1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

Bach219

I have thought the same and ordered one for marching band! It doesn't feel different from my original 3c. I don't know, maybe someone else has a different take on this.

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Raw brass Bach TR300
Vincent Bach 3C
Vincent Bach 7C
Vincent Bach Corp. 10.5C

I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced.- Wynton Marsalis

Sungman

According to the website it has a larger throat,but I'm mostly interested on the rim contour

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Benge 90b-SP - bach 1-1/2c
1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

study888

Hello Sungman,the rim will be a Bach 3C rim feel. It may feel a little tighter,due to the stronger grip feel, that the Delrin plastic creates, sheds moisture faster. Silver plate is slicker, stays wetter. Gold plating being the slickest,wettest, with a much softer metal feel. Compared to Silver plate or the Delrin plastic. For playing outside in cold weather the Kelly m.p. will do just fine. Will not bother your embouchure going back and forth from the plastic to metal. You might miss that nice solid grip the Kelly produces though.

Sungman

If anybody else could share, to me the kelly feels like it has a rounder rim and slightly deeper cup. To me the rims aren't the same as a bach 3c.

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Benge 90b-SP - bach 1-1/2c
1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

Bach219

Here's what it says on the Kelly site:

KELLYTM Trumpet Mouthpieces are made entirely of Lexan® material. The cup sizes are patterned after the Bach® series, sampled by our professional staff and are adjusted to produce our final, comfortable, easy-blowing mouthpieces. Our standard trumpet mouthpieces all have a larger throat diameter than their Bach® counterparts. FEEL the Comfort!

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Raw brass Bach TR300
Vincent Bach 3C
Vincent Bach 7C
Vincent Bach Corp. 10.5C

I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced.- Wynton Marsalis

Sanderson Man

I personally don't like Kelly mouthpieces. They ruin my tone which is why I don't use mine unless it's deathly cold (below 10 degrees).

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Raw Brass Bach TR-300
Conn 16B
Eterna Getzen, Severinsen Model
King 602 cornet

At his clinics, Doc Severinsen would always tell people that if they had come to improve their skills, that they had come to the wrong place and should have stayed home and practiced.

trumpetnick

The real question is if the Kelly you get will be identical to YOUR Bach 3C and that nobody can say for sure, not even you. Should be close though. Anyway, they are cheap, so if it is not a match you won't be lots of $ and you will be able to resell it.

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Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C
Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C
1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet
Spada Custom Piccolo

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Sungman

Are the Bach mouthpiece really that inconsistent now-a-days? From what I've seen, the consistency looked liked it increased.

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Benge 90b-SP - bach 1-1/2c
1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

VetPsychWars

My teacher played my (soon to be ex-)Kelly 3C (I play the 5C) and he said that the rim was totally different. Whether that's a problem will depend on your own personal criteria.

Tom