Mount Vernon Mouthpieces

oldenick · 01-07-2008, 04:41 PM

Hi all, I have been looking for some info on Bach Mount Vernon mp's. Specifically, is a Mount Vernon 3c the same size as a current 3c? Is there a level of craftsmanship that sets them apart from the modern versions? This is not a really pressing question but it has been on my mind for a while, I thought I would ask here. Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks
Nick

dstrad · 01-07-2008, 04:43 PM

Nick:

Go to the Stork Custom Mouthpiece site they offer a line of mouthpieces patterned after the Mt. Vernon moutpices. Good luck.

rowuk · 01-07-2008, 05:41 PM

Anything "Mount Vernon" from Bach means pretty old. I am not sure how "consistent" manufacturing was back then, but even the modern 3C since Mount Vernon have changed over time. You really need to try them to find out if they work for you. I think Kanstul also sells imitations.

Schwab · 01-07-2008, 10:15 PM

Mt. Vernon and Elkhart mouthpieces are different. I personally find them to be more comfortable, but you may not feel the same way. I've played several Mt. Vernon 7C mouthpieces, and they felt very consistent.

oldenick · 01-07-2008, 11:26 PM

Thanks for the replies. I have ordered a Laskey copy from Dillon, it's on back order. It should be interesting to see how it compares to my regular piece.

Thanks again
Nick

Vulgano Brother · 01-08-2008, 11:35 AM

Mark Curry invested a good deal of time and money copying existing Mt. Vernon C series rims.
Benge ended up with the original cutting parts, and like all tooling, sharpening changes contours.

On the one hand we have cloning, on the other, natural morphing--trumpet is such a fascinating study!

By the way, oldenick, it looks like the outhouse door in your avatar opens outward, which is a bad practice: it should open inward so the user can block it with their foot as needed.

Truly amazing, the depth of Vulgano knowledge!

(tee-hee)

burgerbob · 01-08-2008, 01:49 PM

I use a Mt. Vernon 7CW, and it is really an excellent piece. Has a great sound, which is suprising, as I am using it.

oldenick · 01-08-2008, 03:43 PM

There are many ancient and mysterious ways to keep the inquisitive away from the outhouse door. The quality of ones tooting can be the most persuasive.

Walter · 01-09-2008, 04:17 AM

There must be thousands of "outhouse" jokes......"quick exit" comes to mind

Walter

01-07-2008, 04:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
oldenick New Friend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CT Posts: 45	Mount Vernon Mouthpieces Hi all, I have been looking for some info on Bach Mount Vernon mp's. Specifically, is a Mount Vernon 3c the same size as a current 3c? Is there a level of craftsmanship that sets them apart from the modern versions? This is not a really pressing question but it has been on my mind for a while, I thought I would ask here. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks Nick

01-07-2008, 04:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
dstrad New Friend Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 34	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces Nick: Go to the Stork Custom Mouthpiece site they offer a line of mouthpieces patterned after the Mt. Vernon moutpices. Good luck.

01-07-2008, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,374	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces Anything "Mount Vernon" from Bach means pretty old. I am not sure how "consistent" manufacturing was back then, but even the modern 3C since Mount Vernon have changed over time. You really need to try them to find out if they work for you. I think Kanstul also sells imitations. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

01-07-2008, 10:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 1,055	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces Mt. Vernon and Elkhart mouthpieces are different. I personally find them to be more comfortable, but you may not feel the same way. I've played several Mt. Vernon 7C mouthpieces, and they felt very consistent. __________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

01-07-2008, 11:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
oldenick New Friend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CT Posts: 45	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces Thanks for the replies. I have ordered a Laskey copy from Dillon, it's on back order. It should be interesting to see how it compares to my regular piece. Thanks again Nick

01-08-2008, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 3,265	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces Mark Curry invested a good deal of time and money copying existing Mt. Vernon C series rims. Benge ended up with the original cutting parts, and like all tooling, sharpening changes contours. On the one hand we have cloning, on the other, natural morphing--trumpet is such a fascinating study! By the way, oldenick, it looks like the outhouse door in your avatar opens outward, which is a bad practice: it should open inward so the user can block it with their foot as needed. Truly amazing, the depth of Vulgano knowledge! (tee-hee) __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

01-08-2008, 01:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
burgerbob New Friend Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Douglas, WY Posts: 45	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces I use a Mt. Vernon 7CW, and it is really an excellent piece. Has a great sound, which is suprising, as I am using it. __________________ FTW! Me play brass.

01-08-2008, 03:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
oldenick New Friend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CT Posts: 45	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces There are many ancient and mysterious ways to keep the inquisitive away from the outhouse door. The quality of ones tooting can be the most persuasive.

01-09-2008, 04:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
Walter Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 246	Re: Mount Vernon Mouthpieces There must be thousands of "outhouse" jokes......"quick exit" comes to mind Walter

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