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Old 08-06-2007, 10:40 AM   #11
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Re: Mouthpiece

I'll pile on here as well and suggest that you get together with a private teacher who is a professional trumpet player. A Bach 1C is used by many, many professional orchestral players but it's also way too big for many fine players as well. Get advice in person from a pro. Good luck.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:56 AM   #12
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Re: Mouthpiece

Hi,

I concur that a Bach 1 is way too huge for most young, developing players. In the quest of a rich sound on that toilet bowl, a youngster's developing chops may get really tired . . . and thus strain to get all the notes. Straining leads to the opposite of a rich, dark, full sound.

There's a reason why the average inner rim diameter of trumpet mouthpieces falls around .650 . . . and that's because it is right in the center of the extremes that work for different players! That's the size of the Bach 7 mouthpieces, the Warburton 6 series, etc.

THAT BEING SAID . . .

Once the chops are developed well, a mature player can play virtually any width cup . . . as long as the rim is right for the player.

NOW BACK TO THE MATTER AT HAND . . .

This young student needs a real trumpet teacher first!

I suspect the teacher will wean him off that big old Bach 1C pretty darn fast too, and guide the player to the size that's right for him! As a matter of fact, I'd be very amazed if the teacher doesn't bring a bunch of mouthpieces out and get the student "fitted."

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Re: Mouthpiece

There is nothing wrong with the Bach mouthpiece and I don't agree with stay away from Monette until your better. I say, "try all of them"

The 1C is a good mouthpiece and if it fits you it's the right size. We can't decide for you over the internet, with almost no description what is correct.

Get a teacher and bring him or her to the store when you get your new lead piece. If that's not easy for you just go to the store and try a bunch. You will get the idea rather quickly. It's not rocket science.
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Re: Mouthpiece

You also have to be careful how you work between a lead mouthpiece and your regular mouthpiece. Like me myself I switch between a 3C Bach with a Bobby Shew 1 Marcinkiewicz. I feel comfortable with these two mouthpieces, so far, because the rim size its not too big of a difference from an extreme large to an extreme shallow mouthpiece. Dont get me wrong I know the cup is shallow but its what I felt comfortable with and I worked at it slowly. Take your time. Dont rush into these things. Eventually you'll find the answers you're looking for and make an easy transition. Good Luck.
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Re: Mouthpiece

I agree with Matt, I prefer to see hs age players on the 5c or an older model 3c area. what i do is have students try the Schilke 14 or Yamaha 14c4 which is actually between the two, and it seems to work well. It also has the advantage of being able to keep the same rim but go to a 14b for the brighter sound needed in pep band or jazz band without getting into "cutting sheet metal" sound that one so often hears with hs age jazz players. the most important thing is sound and then does it feel good on the chops and you have endurance, or are you having to screw your face up to play it.

Personnaly I play Laskey 75 series for everything. would have students used the 60 or 65 series other then they are a bit pricey and harder to get ahold of here.
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Well, if you have a lot of pocket change laying around, you could always try Monette Mouthpieces. I have only ever played one and loved it, and I have never heard anything bad about them minus the $200 plus price tag.

There are lots of people that don't like the sound that one gets on a Monette moutpiece. Now you have heard.

BamaBoy you need lessons, not a new mouthpiece.
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Re: Mouthpiece

Let's all stop giving this kid advice on mouthpieces. The only thing he should hear from us trumpet geeks is, "Find the best teacher in the area."

Remember, there are few if any lead players that have a stronger upper register than Charlie Davis, and he plays all his double Cs on a Bach 3C or 3B. He also practiced 12 hours a day and studied with Bill Adam for a very long time.

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Tons of hard work;
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There are lots of people that don't like the sound that one gets on a Monette moutpiece. Now you have heard.

BamaBoy you need lessons, not a new mouthpiece.
What would make the sound bad on a Monette mouthpiece. That's a new one for me
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Let's all stop giving this kid advice on mouthpieces. The only thing he should hear from us trumpet geeks is, "Find the best teacher in the area."

Remember, there are few if any lead players that have a stronger upper register than Charlie Davis, and he plays all his double Cs on a Bach 3C or 3B. He also practiced 12 hours a day and studied with Bill Adam for a very long time.

World class player--
World class teacher;
Tons of hard work;
Standard equipment.
absolutly even though i wrote stuff on what i do, i second this of course all is done under the guidence of teacher and i don't switch people that the 7c is working for.
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Ah so.

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