Mouthpiece troubles

Ian000450 · 10-30-2009, 03:43 PM

my band director told me to get on a 3C mouthpiece. I was using a 5B. After switching, I was unable to play as long, or as well with the 3C. Is this just part of switching mouthpieces?
Thanks!

veery715 · 10-30-2009, 04:01 PM

Short answer - yes. The 3C will tire you more quickly until you adjust. Just practice as always and in a few weeks you'll forget you've switched.

Long answer - don't ask! Band directors have no business dictating mouthpiece choice (that's a funny word - since he didn't give you a choice). Your private teacher should be the one to work with you on this. If your director is also your teacher, and also a trumpet player, then maybe it's OK. Otherwise - talk to your (or get a) teacher.

It is cornet - with one "o".

veery

Solar Bell · 10-30-2009, 04:03 PM

It has to do with an idiot band director telling you to switch mouthpieces.

Were you having a specific problem with the 5B?

Is he a trumpet teacher?

Is he your private teacher?

How did he come upon that particular size mouthpiece?

I would go back to your original mouthpiece and get with a private teacher, or at least a mouthpiece technician.

You may not NEED to change.

Ian000450 · 10-30-2009, 05:38 PM

My director is not my teacher and I do not have a private teacher. I had no problem with my 5B, he wanted all of our trumpet players to switch because it would give us a darker sound. I was doing great on my old mouthpiece, I switched back to it on Thursday to see how I would do; I played the best I have in a while.
If you have any more questions please ask! Thanks!

Schwab · 10-30-2009, 05:44 PM

You will get a darker sound from the 5B. I hate to say it, but he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about!

Stick with the 5B. Unless he comes around and inspects your mouthpiece, he won't know what you're playing.

Ian000450 · 10-30-2009, 05:52 PM

Another question. I'm currently playing a Cornet(thanks veery) and am using a Cornet mouthpiece(obviously). I was wondering, if i buy a 5B Trumpet mouthpiece, will it feel the same?

bigdanv · 10-30-2009, 06:11 PM

A Bach 5B cornet mouthpiece and a trumpet 5B mouthpiece should feel the same. Don't switch to the 3C if you play better on the 5B. It sounds like your band teacher is definitely not a trumpet player.

Vulgano Brother · 10-30-2009, 07:05 PM

Schwab was correct--a 5B has a bigger cup volume than a 1C! Stick with your 5B and have your director log on to Trumpetmaster!

veery715 · 10-30-2009, 07:34 PM

I have another question. Are the other trumpet players playing trumpets or cornets? IMO there is a much more distinct sound difference between the "native" cornet sound of your Yamaha and that of a trumpet, more than the sound difference between the 5B and 3C on either kind of horn. I suppose it is not reasonable (not that this person is reasonable) to ask you to change to a trumpet to unify the sound.

Many who are not well informed believe the sound is mostly the product of mouthpiece choice. But the horn itself is a big factor, and the major factor of all is the player. In his eagerness to unify the trumpet section's sound he is going to create problems, not solve them.

I am curious - what grade level is the band, and what kind of music are you playing. Are you marching or sitting?

Vulgano Brother's suggestion for you to suggest he join TrumpetMaster is a very good one. We would welcome it.

veery

Ian000450 · 10-30-2009, 09:19 PM

My Band Director is a Trombone player. He may have told me to switch because they teach students here on a 5C. We are an eight grade band. We are a sitting band, though we play many marches and we occasionally play with the high school in the stands at games.

10-30-2009, 03:43 PM	#1
Ian000450 New Friend Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 31	Mouthpiece troubles my band director told me to get on a 3C mouthpiece. I was using a 5B. After switching, I was unable to play as long, or as well with the 3C. Is this just part of switching mouthpieces? Thanks! __________________ Trumpet(s)/Coronet(s) Yamaha YCR-2330II Mouthpiece(s) Bach 3C Bach 5B Yamaha 11E4

10-30-2009, 04:01 PM	#2
veery715 Forte User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 1,433	Re: Mouthpiece troubles Short answer - yes. The 3C will tire you more quickly until you adjust. Just practice as always and in a few weeks you'll forget you've switched. Long answer - don't ask! Band directors have no business dictating mouthpiece choice (that's a funny word - since he didn't give you a choice). Your private teacher should be the one to work with you on this. If your director is also your teacher, and also a trumpet player, then maybe it's OK. Otherwise - talk to your (or get a) teacher. It is cornet - with one "o". veery

10-30-2009, 04:03 PM	#3
Solar Bell Moderator Utimate User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 5,526	Re: Mouthpiece troubles It has to do with an idiot band director telling you to switch mouthpieces. Were you having a specific problem with the 5B? Is he a trumpet teacher? Is he your private teacher? How did he come upon that particular size mouthpiece? I would go back to your original mouthpiece and get with a private teacher, or at least a mouthpiece technician. You may not NEED to change. __________________ Chuck Willard *The Willard of Oz* "Don't be afraid to see what you see." Ronald Reagan The average response time of a 911 call is over 4 minutes. The average speed of my 9mm is 1250 fps *When seconds count....the police are only minutes away.*

10-30-2009, 05:38 PM	#4
Ian000450 New Friend Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 31	Re: Mouthpiece troubles My director is not my teacher and I do not have a private teacher. I had no problem with my 5B, he wanted all of our trumpet players to switch because it would give us a darker sound. I was doing great on my old mouthpiece, I switched back to it on Thursday to see how I would do; I played the best I have in a while. If you have any more questions please ask! Thanks! __________________ Trumpet(s)/Coronet(s) Yamaha YCR-2330II Mouthpiece(s) Bach 3C Bach 5B Yamaha 11E4

10-30-2009, 05:44 PM	#5
Schwab Moderator Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 1,690	Re: Mouthpiece troubles You will get a darker sound from the 5B. I hate to say it, but he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about! Stick with the 5B. Unless he comes around and inspects your mouthpiece, he won't know what you're playing. __________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

10-30-2009, 05:52 PM	#6
Ian000450 New Friend Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 31	Re: Mouthpiece troubles Another question. I'm currently playing a Cornet(thanks veery) and am using a Cornet mouthpiece(obviously). I was wondering, if i buy a 5B Trumpet mouthpiece, will it feel the same? __________________ Trumpet(s)/Coronet(s) Yamaha YCR-2330II Mouthpiece(s) Bach 3C Bach 5B Yamaha 11E4

10-30-2009, 06:11 PM	#7
bigdanv New Friend Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 47	Re: Mouthpiece troubles A Bach 5B cornet mouthpiece and a trumpet 5B mouthpiece should feel the same. Don't switch to the 3C if you play better on the 5B. It sounds like your band teacher is definitely not a trumpet player.

10-30-2009, 07:05 PM	#8
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 4,253	Re: Mouthpiece troubles Schwab was correct--a 5B has a bigger cup volume than a 1C! Stick with your 5B and have your director log on to Trumpetmaster! __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org Last edited by Vulgano Brother; 10-30-2009 at 10:52 PM. Reason: German grammar--oops!

10-30-2009, 07:34 PM	#9
veery715 Forte User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 1,433	Re: Mouthpiece troubles I have another question. Are the other trumpet players playing trumpets or cornets? IMO there is a much more distinct sound difference between the "native" cornet sound of your Yamaha and that of a trumpet, more than the sound difference between the 5B and 3C on either kind of horn. I suppose it is not reasonable (not that this person is reasonable) to ask you to change to a trumpet to unify the sound. Many who are not well informed believe the sound is mostly the product of mouthpiece choice. But the horn itself is a big factor, and the major factor of all is the player. In his eagerness to unify the trumpet section's sound he is going to create problems, not solve them. I am curious - what grade level is the band, and what kind of music are you playing. Are you marching or sitting? Vulgano Brother's suggestion for you to suggest he join TrumpetMaster is a very good one. We would welcome it. veery

10-30-2009, 09:19 PM	#10
Ian000450 New Friend Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 31	Re: Mouthpiece troubles My Band Director is a Trombone player. He may have told me to switch because they teach students here on a 5C. We are an eight grade band. We are a sitting band, though we play many marches and we occasionally play with the high school in the stands at games. __________________ Trumpet(s)/Coronet(s) Yamaha YCR-2330II Mouthpiece(s) Bach 3C Bach 5B Yamaha 11E4

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Computer troubles	oohhh yeah	TM Lounge	9	03-02-2009 01:56 AM
Long tone troubles	BHSBrass	Trumpet Discussion	4	01-15-2009 01:38 AM
Animal troubles...	Lizzie	TM Lounge	2	12-20-2008 12:28 PM
Audition repertoire troubles	trumpetnick	Orchestra / Solo / Chamber Music	3	02-05-2008 09:26 PM
Mouthpiece Troubles	Matt G	Mouthpieces / Mutes / Other	5	03-03-2005 04:59 PM

Unleash Your Anger
Copyright 2006 TrumpetMaster.com	All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:38 PM. Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v2.2.0/Links 1.01 Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2 Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0