mute repair

flugelgirl · 03-12-2008, 02:24 PM

My Tom Crown straight mute has come loose at the end (the round part spins around), and is doing some extra rattling. Does anyone know a good way to fix it without compromising the sound of the mute? I really love this mute, and don't want to spend money on a new one, as this one is only a few years old.
Thanks!

jcstites · 03-12-2008, 02:25 PM

I think a little bit of a gorilla glue should do the trick.

uapiper · 03-14-2008, 11:04 PM

Gorilla glue would work, but I think it would dampen or take some of the vibe out of the mute. What about trying to crimp the seam with a pair of pliers?

trumpet_man · 03-14-2008, 11:40 PM

You can't go wrong soldering it: even if it's just enough to stop the rattling.

commakozzi · 03-14-2008, 11:53 PM

yeah, pair of pliers. Crimp it two times around the circumfrence to leave it a little loose for experimentation (eventaully crimp 3 times max). Some people purposely loosen their mutes for sound reasons. I like a good "buzzy" harmon which aren't easy to find stock, but a good set of pliers usually helps me out. I don't mind, either, seeing someone throw a brand new mute up against a wall. It's somewhat satisfying, and also rewarding. I know... I'm weird and a little sadistic.

Petia · 04-04-2008, 03:41 AM

I just had this problem.
First I tried to fix it in a quick and dirty way by forcing small bits of (music) paper in the seam. It fixed the rattling but damped too much.
From this experience I concluded that glue or solder are probably the worst solution: it will likely dampen the mute too much.
I used pliers like others recommended, gently applying pressure to several points and playtesting after each squeeze. This works great, just don't overdo it, as commakozzi mentioned. It's a one way road...

Brian H. Smout · 04-04-2008, 07:14 AM

Hi,

I have a LeBlanc straight mute with the same problem. I used a very sparing amount of Gorilla glue. Sounds fine and avoids buying pliers to fit. Also reversible if too much glue is applied.

FWIW,

Brian

omelet · 04-04-2008, 04:47 PM

just hit the edge against something
then twist until it sticks in place

you really have to jack a mute up to change the sound

03-12-2008, 02:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
flugelgirl Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norfolk, VA Brand: depends on the day... Posts: 223	mute repair My Tom Crown straight mute has come loose at the end (the round part spins around), and is doing some extra rattling. Does anyone know a good way to fix it without compromising the sound of the mute? I really love this mute, and don't want to spend money on a new one, as this one is only a few years old. Thanks!
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jcstites Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 736	Re: mute repair I think a little bit of a gorilla glue should do the trick.
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uapiper Pianissimo User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Brand: Xeno, Conn 22B NYS Posts: 116	Re: mute repair Gorilla glue would work, but I think it would dampen or take some of the vibe out of the mute. What about trying to crimp the seam with a pair of pliers?
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03-14-2008, 11:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
trumpet_man Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Brand: Yamaha Xeno Posts: 160	Re: mute repair You can't go wrong soldering it: even if it's just enough to stop the rattling.
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03-14-2008, 11:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
commakozzi Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Brand: Yamaha, Bach Posts: 218	Re: mute repair yeah, pair of pliers. Crimp it two times around the circumfrence to leave it a little loose for experimentation (eventaully crimp 3 times max). Some people purposely loosen their mutes for sound reasons. I like a good "buzzy" harmon which aren't easy to find stock, but a good set of pliers usually helps me out. I don't mind, either, seeing someone throw a brand new mute up against a wall. It's somewhat satisfying, and also rewarding. I know... I'm weird and a little sadistic.

04-04-2008, 03:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
Petia New Friend Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1	Re: mute repair I just had this problem. First I tried to fix it in a quick and dirty way by forcing small bits of (music) paper in the seam. It fixed the rattling but damped too much. From this experience I concluded that glue or solder are probably the worst solution: it will likely dampen the mute too much. I used pliers like others recommended, gently applying pressure to several points and playtesting after each squeeze. This works great, just don't overdo it, as commakozzi mentioned. It's a one way road...
Petia New Friend Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1

04-04-2008, 07:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
Brian H. Smout Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Swift Current, Sask. Canada Posts: 111	Re: mute repair Hi, I have a LeBlanc straight mute with the same problem. I used a very sparing amount of Gorilla glue. Sounds fine and avoids buying pliers to fit. Also reversible if too much glue is applied. FWIW, Brian
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04-04-2008, 04:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
omelet Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: charleston, sc Posts: 73	Re: mute repair just hit the edge against something then twist until it sticks in place you really have to jack a mute up to change the sound

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