Plastic GR Mouthpieces

eisprl · 02-13-2007, 12:11 PM

Hey all

I just did the coldest gig ever this morning. We played for the Govenor General of Canada arrival at Province House in Halifax, NS. It was a case of "rain or shine". We all knew that playing a gig outdoors in -25(c) in mid-Feb would have its problems. Sure enough.....

By the time we got off the bus and played our first song (Heart Of Oak) everything was frozen. In fact I was the only trumpet player whose valves were not frozen half way down. Needless to say we did not play any more music but we did stay outdoors for a bit. (Some of the lettering on the bass drum skin was falling off and one of our snare drums cracked right down the side).

Anyway, I looked online to see if GR makes Plastic mouthieces for future gigs like this. Brian Scriver got back to me with this.

I just thought I'd share this with those of you who do outdoor gigs/parades etc. Might be something well worth looking into. I think I am going to order one.

GR Lexan Plastic Rims

Good luck with all your winter outdoor gigs!
Eric

stchasking · 02-13-2007, 08:37 PM

May I suggest removing all of the valve oil from your horn for any gigs below freezing? The monel piston has a different coefficient of thermal expansion than the brass sleeve. You shouldn't need valve oil because the clearance is going to get pretty tight. You'll have minimal air leaks. Give it a try and let us know how it works out.

Talk to the armourers. What do they do with automatic rifles in cold weather?

dcstep · 02-14-2007, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eisprl

Anyway, I looked online to see if GR makes Plastic mouthieces for future gigs like this. Brian Scriver got back to me with this.

I just thought I'd share this with those of you who do outdoor gigs/parades etc. Might be something well worth looking into. I think I am going to order one.

Seems very wise to me, particularly for a GR user, such as yourself. Others might consider the Kelly all-Lexan mpc. I never play in your circumstances, but if I did, I'd order a GR with the Lexan rim.

Dave

TrentAustin · 02-14-2007, 01:20 PM

I just ordered a Lexan rim from Mark Curry. I feel like that I'm allergic to metal pieces. My face feels a lot better on my cheap Kelly but the sound isn't strong enough on an all-plastic piece IMO.

-T

dcstep · 02-14-2007, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrentAustin

My face feels a lot better on my cheap Kelly but the sound isn't strong enough on an all-plastic piece IMO.

I'm with you T, but some people love the Kellys. I don't understand why, but some people like it as their prime mpc.

Dave

TrentAustin · 02-14-2007, 02:19 PM

The Kelly lacks depth and projection out in a hall IMO.

rowuk · 02-14-2007, 05:39 PM

I used to use the Schilke Delrin Rim when I was in the Army Band in the mid 70s. It saved my chops on more than one occasion. Back then I was using Al Cass or something equally thin. Worked real well in the cold. Even the trombone players switched to valve oil

stchasking · 02-14-2007, 07:46 PM

Trent,

Try a gold plated mouth piece. A good repair shop can do small plating jobs. Some people are sensitive to silver.

TrentAustin · 02-18-2007, 01:02 PM

I'm sensitive to both silver and gold. My doctor has advised me to not play on either...
Thanks though!
-T

talcito · 02-18-2007, 02:04 PM

Hey Trent:

There are a couple of great lead players in NYC who are now using stainless steel mouthpieces and love the power and projection.

They have their mouthpiecs made by a private producer in Penn.

The Loud Mouthpieces co. that advertises here now has a trumpet line available that are stainless steel as well.

02-13-2007, 12:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
eisprl Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Halifax, NS CANADA Posts: 506	Plastic GR Mouthpieces Hey all I just did the coldest gig ever this morning. We played for the Govenor General of Canada arrival at Province House in Halifax, NS. It was a case of "rain or shine". We all knew that playing a gig outdoors in -25(c) in mid-Feb would have its problems. Sure enough..... By the time we got off the bus and played our first song (Heart Of Oak) everything was frozen. In fact I was the only trumpet player whose valves were not frozen half way down. Needless to say we did not play any more music but we did stay outdoors for a bit. (Some of the lettering on the bass drum skin was falling off and one of our snare drums cracked right down the side). Anyway, I looked online to see if GR makes Plastic mouthieces for future gigs like this. Brian Scriver got back to me with this. I just thought I'd share this with those of you who do outdoor gigs/parades etc. Might be something well worth looking into. I think I am going to order one. GR Lexan Plastic Rims Good luck with all your winter outdoor gigs! Eric __________________ Eric Sproul Practice is like filling a leaky bucket Bb: Yamaha Xeno 8335 C: Bach Stadivarious 239L and 25A leadpipe (Owned by Eric Sholtz) Flugel: Yamaha Bobby Shew 6310Z Mouthpieces: GR tech www.stadband.ca

02-13-2007, 08:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
stchasking Forte User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,302	Re: Plastic GR Mouthpieces May I suggest removing all of the valve oil from your horn for any gigs below freezing? The monel piston has a different coefficient of thermal expansion than the brass sleeve. You shouldn't need valve oil because the clearance is going to get pretty tight. You'll have minimal air leaks. Give it a try and let us know how it works out. Talk to the armourers. What do they do with automatic rifles in cold weather? __________________ "I was performing professionally at age 17 and have never had a real job." Allen Vizzutti http://cdbaby.com/cd/mcking

02-14-2007, 01:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
TrentAustin Moderator Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,533	Re: Plastic GR Mouthpieces I just ordered a Lexan rim from Mark Curry. I feel like that I'm allergic to metal pieces. My face feels a lot better on my cheap Kelly but the sound isn't strong enough on an all-plastic piece IMO. -T __________________ Trent Austin Taking a break to focus on my music but I am lurking around. If you want to chat PM me. http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com

02-14-2007, 02:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
TrentAustin Moderator Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,533	Re: Plastic GR Mouthpieces The Kelly lacks depth and projection out in a hall IMO. __________________ Trent Austin Taking a break to focus on my music but I am lurking around. If you want to chat PM me. http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com

02-14-2007, 05:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,228	Re: Plastic GR Mouthpieces I used to use the Schilke Delrin Rim when I was in the Army Band in the mid 70s. It saved my chops on more than one occasion. Back then I was using Al Cass or something equally thin. Worked real well in the cold. Even the trombone players switched to valve oil __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

02-14-2007, 07:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
stchasking Forte User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,302	Re: Plastic GR Mouthpieces Trent, Try a gold plated mouth piece. A good repair shop can do small plating jobs. Some people are sensitive to silver. __________________ "I was performing professionally at age 17 and have never had a real job." Allen Vizzutti http://cdbaby.com/cd/mcking

02-18-2007, 01:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
TrentAustin Moderator Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,533	Re: Plastic GR Mouthpieces I'm sensitive to both silver and gold. My doctor has advised me to not play on either... Thanks though! -T __________________ Trent Austin Taking a break to focus on my music but I am lurking around. If you want to chat PM me. http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com

02-18-2007, 02:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
talcito Piano User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 300	Re: Plastic GR Mouthpieces Hey Trent: There are a couple of great lead players in NYC who are now using stainless steel mouthpieces and love the power and projection. They have their mouthpiecs made by a private producer in Penn. The Loud Mouthpieces co. that advertises here now has a trumpet line available that are stainless steel as well.

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