Schilke 14F

heck99 · 06-03-2007, 10:13 PM

I acquired a Schilke 14F with a used horn and I have been searching for information regarding it and I have come up with nothing. Was this a model they discontinued or is it a custom model? It is not one of the mouthpiece models on the Schilke site, and I was curious to see if anyone on here knew anything regarding the background/origin of this piece. Thanks!

-heck

heck99 · 06-04-2007, 03:34 PM

Anyone?

MJ · 06-04-2007, 03:40 PM

Why don't you click on the contact button at the Schilke site and send em an email or give a call.

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rowuk · 06-04-2007, 03:49 PM

Heck99
As no one here seems to know, please post your results! Then we are all informed!
Thanks!

Vulgano Brother · 06-04-2007, 06:24 PM

Maybe a Flugelhorn mouthpiece? (Check page 22 of the Schilke PDF Mouthpiece Catalogue.)

kadleck · 06-04-2007, 10:38 PM

I have a Schilke 14F which is indeed a flugelhorn piece. Does it have a trumpet shank?

heck99 · 06-04-2007, 10:48 PM

I emailed Schilke earlier this evening, I'll post my findings from them as soon as they reply. Yes mine is indeed a flugel piece with a V-cup and flugel-length shank.

-heck

heck99 · 06-04-2007, 11:14 PM

VB-

I checked the Schilke PDF catalogue and the only stock models that are currently available are the following:

6F4, 13F4, 14F4, 15F, 16F4, 17F, 18F, 20F

-heck

screamingmorris · 06-04-2007, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heck99

I emailed Schilke earlier this evening, I'll post my findings from them as soon as they reply. Yes mine is indeed a flugel piece with a V-cup and flugel-length shank.

-heck

Page 17 of my old Schilke mouthpiece handbook says on page 17:
"Fluegelhorn Mouthpieces...
These mouthpieces can be made up in any of our standard rims...
Fluegelhorn mouthpiece receivers differ greatly as to dimensions of mouthpieces stem required. Therefore, FLUEGELHORN MOUTHPIECES MUST BE CUSTOM-BUILT TO ORDER."
[emphasis in original]

That leads me to believe that there is no such thing as a Schilke stock flugel mouthpiece.
Which is why your mouthpiece is not mentioned in any listing of stock Schilke mouthpieces.
Your Schilke flugel mouthpiece by definition must be a custom one.

- morris

heck99 · 06-05-2007, 08:25 PM

Schilke emailed me back with my answer:

"Hi John,

Thank you for your inquiry. This appears to be a special custom mouthpiece using the rim of our model 14 trumpet with a 'F' flugelhorn cup and appropriate shank to properly fit the Olds flugelhorn. This has never been a production piece. The rim contour of the 14 is rounder than the the #4 rim found on our present day 14F4 model."

It appears it is in fact a custom mouthpiece. Thanks for all the responses.

-heck

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heck99 New Friend Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	Re: Schilke 14F I emailed Schilke earlier this evening, I'll post my findings from them as soon as they reply. Yes mine is indeed a flugel piece with a V-cup and flugel-length shank. -heck Last edited by heck99 : 06-04-2007 at 11:11 PM. Reason: V-cup, not rim
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heck99 New Friend Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	Re: Schilke 14F VB- I checked the Schilke PDF catalogue and the only stock models that are currently available are the following: 6F4, 13F4, 14F4, 15F, 16F4, 17F, 18F, 20F -heck
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06-05-2007, 08:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
heck99 New Friend Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	Re: Schilke 14F Schilke emailed me back with my answer: "Hi John, Thank you for your inquiry. This appears to be a special custom mouthpiece using the rim of our model 14 trumpet with a 'F' flugelhorn cup and appropriate shank to properly fit the Olds flugelhorn. This has never been a production piece. The rim contour of the 14 is rounder than the the #4 rim found on our present day 14F4 model." It appears it is in fact a custom mouthpiece. Thanks for all the responses. -heck
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