Schilke 15a4

Hiwiller · 12-29-2004, 02:51 PM

Hopefully someone can advise...

Am most comfortable with a Bach 1.25c on my Bach Strad but have been looking for flatter rimmed/shallower pieces to experiment with. Have tried the Schilke 14a4a, but find the rim feels a bit small, middle register fades, and general feeling of stuffiness throughout after few minutes of playing.

Am thinking of trying the Schilke 15a4 with the larger backbore to see if it might be a better fit with what I'm used to in the 1.25 c.

Other option might be a Bach 1D but not sure about the backbore on the stock pieces.

Any thoughts?

W Scott · 12-29-2004, 03:23 PM

Go with a 15C4. The 'a' cup is probably what's making the lower register fade. The 'C' is a bigger cup, and the backbore is the standard open bore. The 15/4 rim is just a bit bigger but has the same feel as the 14/4.

Hiwiller · 12-29-2004, 03:32 PM

Thanks for the quick reply.

One additional question. How does the Schilke 'C' cup compare to the Bach? For orchestral sound, I'm happy with the Bach. I'm looking for more of a cutting sound with a boost/endurance in the upper register that comes with the shallower cups.

Thanks again.

W Scott · 12-29-2004, 04:06 PM

The Schilkes, IMO, are close to the Bachs. You might try contacting Brian Scrivner over at GR mouthpieces and fill out the questionaire. A 65 MX might just work.

JackD · 12-29-2004, 07:05 PM

15B!

I use a 1 1/4C for my classical work (which is 90% of what I do) and recently picked up one of these for big-band work. The rim is very comfortable - more comfortable than my Bach in fact! - and I found it far superior to the Bach 1D / 3D / Schilke 15a4 and similar pieces.

Try it!

JackD · 12-29-2004, 07:06 PM

Oh I forgot to say - the 15B gives me more of a cutting sound and helps me in the upper register, but without compromising the bottom end, or thinning out the tone.

Hiwiller · 12-30-2004, 12:32 AM

Great to hear JackD!

I may try out the 15b as well as check out GR to see what they can do for me.

Thanks everyone for the input!

davidquinlan · 12-31-2004, 05:38 AM

I use a 15A4 when playing on Piccolo / Eb/D (sometimes) and when playing Eb Soprano Cornet.
Don't use it on Bb much, I suppose if I had to do more "lead" type playing I may use it.
Thins the sound out too much for my taste on a Bb.

Comfortable mpiece though.

12-29-2004, 02:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hiwiller New Friend Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: near Cleveland, OH, USA Posts: 33	Schilke 15a4 Hopefully someone can advise... Am most comfortable with a Bach 1.25c on my Bach Strad but have been looking for flatter rimmed/shallower pieces to experiment with. Have tried the Schilke 14a4a, but find the rim feels a bit small, middle register fades, and general feeling of stuffiness throughout after few minutes of playing. Am thinking of trying the Schilke 15a4 with the larger backbore to see if it might be a better fit with what I'm used to in the 1.25 c. Other option might be a Bach 1D but not sure about the backbore on the stock pieces. Any thoughts?

12-29-2004, 03:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
W Scott Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Carson City, NV. Posts: 490	Go with a 15C4. The 'a' cup is probably what's making the lower register fade. The 'C' is a bigger cup, and the backbore is the standard open bore. The 15/4 rim is just a bit bigger but has the same feel as the 14/4.
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12-29-2004, 04:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
W Scott Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Carson City, NV. Posts: 490	The Schilkes, IMO, are close to the Bachs. You might try contacting Brian Scrivner over at GR mouthpieces and fill out the questionaire. A 65 MX might just work.
	__________________ Gabriel is NOT a woodwind player!

12-31-2004, 05:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
davidquinlan Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southgate, London, UK Brand: Bach Posts: 173	I use a 15A4 when playing on Piccolo / Eb/D (sometimes) and when playing Eb Soprano Cornet. Don't use it on Bb much, I suppose if I had to do more "lead" type playing I may use it. Thins the sound out too much for my taste on a Bb. Comfortable mpiece though.
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12-29-2004, 03:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hiwiller New Friend Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: near Cleveland, OH, USA Posts: 33	Thanks for the quick reply. One additional question. How does the Schilke 'C' cup compare to the Bach? For orchestral sound, I'm happy with the Bach. I'm looking for more of a cutting sound with a boost/endurance in the upper register that comes with the shallower cups. Thanks again.

12-29-2004, 07:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
JackD Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester / London Posts: 763	15B! I use a 1 1/4C for my classical work (which is 90% of what I do) and recently picked up one of these for big-band work. The rim is very comfortable - more comfortable than my Bach in fact! - and I found it far superior to the Bach 1D / 3D / Schilke 15a4 and similar pieces. Try it!

12-29-2004, 07:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
JackD Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester / London Posts: 763	Oh I forgot to say - the 15B gives me more of a cutting sound and helps me in the upper register, but without compromising the bottom end, or thinning out the tone.

12-30-2004, 12:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hiwiller New Friend Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: near Cleveland, OH, USA Posts: 33	Great to hear JackD! I may try out the 15b as well as check out GR to see what they can do for me. Thanks everyone for the input!

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