Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece

trumpetnick · 01-13-2007, 05:14 AM

Guys,

I am thinking of getting a new piccolo mouthpiece (bigger). I know exactly what I should look for, but not sure where....so, if you have any sugestion, please do!

I need a MP with a rim size somewhere near to my MP that I use with the B flat/C trumpet which is 1 1/2C Vincent Bach. It can get as small as 3 C but not below. Currently I play with the Schilke 11AX but the switching from the bigger 1 1/2 C to Schilke sometimes is a problem. I like the Schilke rim shape but the size seems to be a bit too small for me....
To sum up I need a MP with a tim size somewhere between 1 1/2C and 3 C, Rim shape similar to the Schilke Pic MP 11AX with a cornet shank. I plan to purchase soon a Piccolo which will be either scherzer or spada (the spada is schilke like pic, with a slightly larger backbore and bigger bell which gives a free blowing feel and much broader sound than the schlke).

Any suggestions?

LFRoberts5 · 01-13-2007, 09:52 AM

Check out Curry Mouthpieces. I use a 5XS for my picc and it works great. My regular mouthpiece is a Curry 5BC.

trumpetnick · 01-15-2007, 02:56 AM

Seems that the Schilke 11AX was designed to play on schilke pic. Probably that is the reason why it did not work as well as I wished on other trumpets (bigger bell and larger backbore for spada or different shaped bell for rotaries like scherzer). I found another one on their site which is 14A4x which may be an answer.

I thought of warburton and I consider seriously this option. Are all cups available with cornet schanks? I did not find bach 1 1/2C to their chart. My aproach is actually to get as close as possibble to my Bflat moutpiece rim size but slightly shallower.
Any one playing GR? I think of looking there too

Vulgano Brother · 01-17-2007, 01:01 AM

Warburton 3's are about the same as a 1 1/2 and yes, they do make cornet backbores for piccs. The Curry Z cups, however, work great on piccs!

trumpetnick · 01-17-2007, 02:28 AM

Vulgano,

Do you know exactly what is the difference between S SV cups in reality? than what back bore would you recommend for both of them?

Vulgano Brother · 01-17-2007, 12:42 PM

The S cup is more C shaped, and the SV more of a V cup. The S should allow for more "Taah" in the articulation, the SV more "Daah" and a little freeer airflow. I liked the sound better on the S (but nearly not as well as Curry's Z with his Monstersleeve), but used trumpet shanks. Warburton should be able to make some good suggestions for a backbore on the cornet shank. Generally, wide open backbores are the conventional reccomendations.

Kanstul's website has some nifty tools for looking at cup shapes. Check them out!

Albert Castillo · 01-17-2007, 02:44 PM

3E ???

Or, my old teacher play just 3C on the piccolo and 1 1/2 C on the big horns...(same did Wynton too...)

MartinRooney · 01-23-2007, 01:06 PM

Check out the GR picc mouthpieces as well. Wide range of sizes, rims, cups, backbores, etc. to tailor to your horn. Good luck.

01-13-2007, 05:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
trumpetnick Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Brand: Spada Posts: 754	Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece Guys, I am thinking of getting a new piccolo mouthpiece (bigger). I know exactly what I should look for, but not sure where....so, if you have any sugestion, please do! I need a MP with a rim size somewhere near to my MP that I use with the B flat/C trumpet which is 1 1/2C Vincent Bach. It can get as small as 3 C but not below. Currently I play with the Schilke 11AX but the switching from the bigger 1 1/2 C to Schilke sometimes is a problem. I like the Schilke rim shape but the size seems to be a bit too small for me.... To sum up I need a MP with a tim size somewhere between 1 1/2C and 3 C, Rim shape similar to the Schilke Pic MP 11AX with a cornet shank. I plan to purchase soon a Piccolo which will be either scherzer or spada (the spada is schilke like pic, with a slightly larger backbore and bigger bell which gives a free blowing feel and much broader sound than the schlke). Any suggestions?
	__________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 2b6, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

01-13-2007, 09:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
LFRoberts5 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 55	Re: Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece Check out Curry Mouthpieces. I use a 5XS for my picc and it works great. My regular mouthpiece is a Curry 5BC.
	__________________ LFRoberts5 Holton Bb Callet Symphonique C Bach Strad Flugelhorn GR 65M

01-15-2007, 02:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
trumpetnick Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Brand: Spada Posts: 754	Re: Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece Seems that the Schilke 11AX was designed to play on schilke pic. Probably that is the reason why it did not work as well as I wished on other trumpets (bigger bell and larger backbore for spada or different shaped bell for rotaries like scherzer). I found another one on their site which is 14A4x which may be an answer. I thought of warburton and I consider seriously this option. Are all cups available with cornet schanks? I did not find bach 1 1/2C to their chart. My aproach is actually to get as close as possibble to my Bflat moutpiece rim size but slightly shallower. Any one playing GR? I think of looking there too
	__________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 2b6, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

01-17-2007, 01:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 2,816	Re: Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece Warburton 3's are about the same as a 1 1/2 and yes, they do make cornet backbores for piccs. The Curry Z cups, however, work great on piccs!
	__________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

01-17-2007, 02:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
trumpetnick Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Brand: Spada Posts: 754	Re: Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece Vulgano, Do you know exactly what is the difference between S SV cups in reality? than what back bore would you recommend for both of them?
	__________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 2b6, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

01-17-2007, 12:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 2,816	Re: Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece The S cup is more C shaped, and the SV more of a V cup. The S should allow for more "Taah" in the articulation, the SV more "Daah" and a little freeer airflow. I liked the sound better on the S (but nearly not as well as Curry's Z with his Monstersleeve), but used trumpet shanks. Warburton should be able to make some good suggestions for a backbore on the cornet shank. Generally, wide open backbores are the conventional reccomendations. Kanstul's website has some nifty tools for looking at cup shapes. Check them out!
	__________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

01-17-2007, 02:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Albert Castillo Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Munich Brand: Schagerl-Breslmair Posts: 107	Re: Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece 3E ??? Or, my old teacher play just 3C on the piccolo and 1 1/2 C on the big horns...(same did Wynton too...)
	__________________ Albert A. Castillo

01-23-2007, 01:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
MartinRooney New Friend Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston MA Posts: 9	Re: Searching for a new Piccolo Mouthpiece Check out the GR picc mouthpieces as well. Wide range of sizes, rims, cups, backbores, etc. to tailor to your horn. Good luck.
	__________________ Marty Eclipse MR Bb (gold plate) GR66L/Curry 5TF Smith-Watkins C - 464R20/250 (gold plate) w/GR66L symphonic Kanstul CCT 920 Pic GR62P-M Courtois 156R Flugel GR65Fl

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