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Old 10-04-2009, 12:31 AM   #1
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Question Shallow Mouthpiece

What are your thoughts on shallow mouthpieces? I first had a 7c then a 5c from a trumpet I got. I recently got a 3e. I have a habbit of playing mainly upper lip because my teeth, but it is also just a bad habbit I got into. I realized the way to play a shallow mouthpice is mainly lower lip and I have been having a little trouble getting used to it. I know that it is really just personal preference, but what do you think of this situation? Should I try to break the habbit and use the 5c or 7c or use the 3e?
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

Welcome to TM, suudsu!

The 7C and 5C aren't far apart in terms of size--it is more of a rim feel sort of thing. The 3E isn't really meant for the Bb trumpet, so I'd suggest the 5C.

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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

I use a verry shallow MP and I use 1/3 lip on top and 2/3 lip on bottom (not sure how to say that correctly lol) I say keep the 3E and try to adjust to it.
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

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I use a verry shallow MP and I use 1/3 lip on top and 2/3 lip on bottom (not sure how to say that correctly lol) I say keep the 3E and try to adjust to it.
If the 3E is NOT made for a B flat trumpet?

Why would you advise him to use it???????

What is your reasoning for that statement?
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

If your having trouble with the depth of the 3E ,you could try flatting the playing surface ,by pushing your lower jaw against the mouthpiece , or maybe a slightly deeper cup like a 3D might give you a little more lip room. I play about 3//4 to 4/5 top lip and play a Warburton 6SV anchor top and never bottom out .
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

Try remaining with your 5C, and do not change all the time from one to the other... But this is only MY (poor) opinion.
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

I would suggest finding a qualified teacher who can look and carefully evaluate your playing. Thats the best advice I can think of, because we all can't see your playing but can only offer guesses as to which is "best" for you.
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

What differentiates a Bb mouthpiece from say a C?
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

Only Monette to my knowledge makes pitch specific mouthpieces - the difference is mostly in the shank length, but I will leave that to more knowleadgable than me Monette users.. However, the Bach 3E is usually supplied with 117 backbore which makes of it more of a picc mouthpiece.
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Re: Shallow Mouthpiece

Suudsu,
there is no definitive answer for mouthpieces. All of the brand and size advice without physically seeing you play are essentially worthless.

One decent lesson can get you a real answer. Find somebody good locally.

"Standard" mouthpieces like 7Cs are called that because they strike a balance between extremes, not too big or small, not too deep or shallow, balanced endurance and flexibility. I generally recommend starting standard and then once everything is working well, figuring out where ones playing should go in the next 2 years. What type of music, what position, etc. With that info, an intelligent decision can be made to stick with what you have, or move on to something more extreme - with all of the good and bad that extreme brings.
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