Spider stand warning...

dburdett · 09-21-2005, 11:38 AM

I just figured out the my beloved Spider trumpet stand has been wearing off the silver from inside my bell. A friend warned me of this and it seems to be so. On the top of each leg of the stand is a rubber insert that comes in contact with the bell. Rubber when in contact with silver plate turns it black, and the stain can't seem to be removed. I remember this happening with a rubber band used for holding in the third slide on a silver horn. I love using my Spider stand, but will have to figure out how to rectify this problem.

Schwab · 09-21-2005, 12:15 PM

Get a piece of cloth, cut a hole in the middle of it and slip it over the stand. Problem solved.

The stain is tarnish, it can be removed.

WUG · 09-21-2005, 03:16 PM

Most natural rubber is vulcanized, as it strengthens the natural rubber. Sulfur is used in the vulcanization process and residual sulfur stays in the rubber. It doesn't take much contact for the silver to react with the sulfur, creating silversulfide (tarnish). Constantly removing the tarnish is also reducing the silver plate thickness in that area exposing the raw brass.

WUG

trickg · 09-21-2005, 03:24 PM

Try using a more agressive polish like Blue Magic or Flitz - those black marks should come off, but it should be noted that both of those polishes are a bit more agressive than a polish like Wrights Silver Cream so over use will cause your plating to thin.

Tootsall · 09-21-2005, 03:32 PM

Aiiii Caramba! Get a smaller avatar!

BigBadWolf · 09-21-2005, 04:08 PM

I thought there was a built in limiter for the avatar size. I guess not.

dburdett · 09-21-2005, 04:17 PM

...Sorry guys....I'm fallin' off my chair laughing here.....I can't seem to downsize the pic....

Bourbon City · 09-21-2005, 04:36 PM

OK, I'll bite. What is happening to all the text

BigBadWolf · 09-21-2005, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dburdett

...Sorry guys....I'm fallin' off my chair laughing here.....I can't seem to downsize the pic....

Then delete it... it's not hard

dizforprez · 09-21-2005, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickg

Try using a more agressive polish like Blue Magic or Flitz - those black marks should come off, but it should be noted that both of those polishes are a bit more agressive than a polish like Wrights Silver Cream so over use will cause your plating to thin.

if that doesnt work you can try miracle cloth or gently go over it with never dull.

09-21-2005, 11:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
dburdett New Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston MA Posts: 40	Spider stand warning... I just figured out the my beloved Spider trumpet stand has been wearing off the silver from inside my bell. A friend warned me of this and it seems to be so. On the top of each leg of the stand is a rubber insert that comes in contact with the bell. Rubber when in contact with silver plate turns it black, and the stain can't seem to be removed. I remember this happening with a rubber band used for holding in the third slide on a silver horn. I love using my Spider stand, but will have to figure out how to rectify this problem. __________________ Benge MLP B flat,Bach 229 LB H pipe , Bach 189 E Flat, Yamaha 635T Flugel, Yamaha Custom Piccolo, Reeves 43S

09-21-2005, 12:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 1,055	Get a piece of cloth, cut a hole in the middle of it and slip it over the stand. Problem solved. The stain is tarnish, it can be removed. __________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

09-21-2005, 03:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
WUG New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 6	Rubber: Bad Most natural rubber is vulcanized, as it strengthens the natural rubber. Sulfur is used in the vulcanization process and residual sulfur stays in the rubber. It doesn't take much contact for the silver to react with the sulfur, creating silversulfide (tarnish). Constantly removing the tarnish is also reducing the silver plate thickness in that area exposing the raw brass. WUG

09-21-2005, 03:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	Try using a more agressive polish like Blue Magic or Flitz - those black marks should come off, but it should be noted that both of those polishes are a bit more agressive than a polish like Wrights Silver Cream so over use will cause your plating to thin. __________________ Patrick Gleason email me at: trickg1@hotmail.com "What we do in life echoes in eternity" "At my signal, unleash hell." - Maximus Decimus Meridius

09-21-2005, 04:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
BigBadWolf Piano User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 312	I thought there was a built in limiter for the avatar size. I guess not. __________________ Kevin

09-21-2005, 03:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Aiiii Caramba! Get a smaller avatar!

09-21-2005, 04:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
dburdett New Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston MA Posts: 40	...Sorry guys....I'm fallin' off my chair laughing here.....I can't seem to downsize the pic.... __________________ Benge MLP B flat,Bach 229 LB H pipe , Bach 189 E Flat, Yamaha 635T Flugel, Yamaha Custom Piccolo, Reeves 43S

09-21-2005, 04:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bourbon City Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Louisville/Bardstown, Kentucky Posts: 198	OK, I'll bite. What is happening to all the text __________________ Dale Schmidt, P.E. Bridges to build and Rivers crossed...

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