Valve Oil

bluegill · 04-22-2007, 01:00 AM

Ok, So I have a Bach Strad, and ever since I started playing I just kinda used whatever valve oil was avaliable and convineant. At this point I'm using Blue Juice and it's really starting to bother me. I have to oil my valves about once every 2-3 days.

Any suggestions on a good kind of oil?

-Keith

Stile442 · 04-22-2007, 01:09 AM

I personally use Al-Cass Fast and never had a problem with it. I've also heard good things about Zaja Blue and Ultra Pure Oils on here as well. If you do decide to change it might be a good idea to clean and wipe down your valves before using the new oil to get all the old stuff off

The BuZZ · 04-22-2007, 09:10 AM

I have recently switched over to "Bell's Super Lube" and have been quite happy with the results. Past experiences with "Pro- Oil Formula 141- A7: Hybrid" were positive as well. Both oils are compatible with close tolerance valves.

BudBix · 04-22-2007, 09:19 AM

I'm using ultra-pure until it runs out. It lasts longer but my valves don't move as fast. I used blue juice before that and it worked well for me. I only tried the Ultra-Pure on an impulse. I have a friend who cannot use blue juice because it reacts negatively with his saliva. This may be your problem? He uses 5 star which is a hybrid oil, part synthetic and part petroleum based. I tried it the other night and like it better than Ultra-pure I may go that route next or go back to blue juice.

Tootsall · 04-22-2007, 09:23 AM

What's wrong with oiling the valves every 2, 3 days? Many people oil valves every day or ever time they sit down for a practice/performance. Some lucky ones get to oil every half hour or so! (you know who you are... come on, admit it! $79.95 plus shipping?)

Having said that...any of the lubricants that use teflon (PTFE) are awfully good; Zaja Blue is my choice.

bluegill · 04-22-2007, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BudBix

I have a friend who cannot use blue juice because it reacts negatively with his saliva. This may be your problem?

That could be. It just bothers me how much slower my valves get in such a short period of time. I was thinking of maybe trying out some synthetic oil, but I have no idea which ones.

Any input?

tennis_the_menace · 04-22-2007, 09:40 AM

I have a bach strad and I use to use blue juice, I had to oil my valves very often, so I started using Zaja oil instead, maybe try that?
Maybe blue juice and stads don't get along, I'm probably wrong though

......try Zaja I think it is really good.
If you get Zaja get the kind WITHOUT a scent, I got the strawberry, and I wish I didn't. The only thing that bothers me about the valve oil is I smell strawberry everytime I play my trumpet, It gives me a headache.

Solar Bell · 04-22-2007, 09:46 AM

NOT ANOTHER VALVE OIL THREAD!!!!!!!!!!

-cw-

tennis_the_menace · 04-22-2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solar Bell

NOT ANOTHER VALVE OIL THREAD!!!!!!!!!!

-cw-

Oh No!!!!!!!

Brekelefuw · 04-22-2007, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegill

That could be. It just bothers me how much slower my valves get in such a short period of time. I was thinking of maybe trying out some synthetic oil, but I have no idea which ones.

Any input?

Take a look at the Hetman's brand valve oil. They come in different strengths so that you can move to one that works with your acidity level.

04-22-2007, 01:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
bluegill New Friend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 32	Valve Oil Ok, So I have a Bach Strad, and ever since I started playing I just kinda used whatever valve oil was avaliable and convineant. At this point I'm using Blue Juice and it's really starting to bother me. I have to oil my valves about once every 2-3 days. Any suggestions on a good kind of oil? -Keith

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Stile442 Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Deland Fl Brand: Bach Posts: 210	Re: Valve Oil I personally use Al-Cass Fast and never had a problem with it. I've also heard good things about Zaja Blue and Ultra Pure Oils on here as well. If you do decide to change it might be a good idea to clean and wipe down your valves before using the new oil to get all the old stuff off
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The BuZZ Pianissimo User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chester, NY Brand: Stage 1, Calicchio Posts: 154	Re: Valve Oil I have recently switched over to "Bell's Super Lube" and have been quite happy with the results. Past experiences with "Pro- Oil Formula 141- A7: Hybrid" were positive as well. Both oils are compatible with close tolerance valves.
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BudBix Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 172	Re: Valve Oil I'm using ultra-pure until it runs out. It lasts longer but my valves don't move as fast. I used blue juice before that and it worked well for me. I only tried the Ultra-Pure on an impulse. I have a friend who cannot use blue juice because it reacts negatively with his saliva. This may be your problem? He uses 5 star which is a hybrid oil, part synthetic and part petroleum based. I tried it the other night and like it better than Ultra-pure I may go that route next or go back to blue juice.
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Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Re: Valve Oil What's wrong with oiling the valves every 2, 3 days? Many people oil valves every day or ever time they sit down for a practice/performance. Some lucky ones get to oil every half hour or so! (you know who you are... come on, admit it! $79.95 plus shipping?) Having said that...any of the lubricants that use teflon (PTFE) are awfully good; Zaja Blue is my choice.

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tennis_the_menace Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lansing, MI Brand: Bach Stradivarius Posts: 73	Re: Valve Oil I have a bach strad and I use to use blue juice, I had to oil my valves very often, so I started using Zaja oil instead, maybe try that? Maybe blue juice and stads don't get along, I'm probably wrong though ......try Zaja I think it is really good. If you get Zaja get the kind WITHOUT a scent, I got the strawberry, and I wish I didn't. The only thing that bothers me about the valve oil is I smell strawberry everytime I play my trumpet, It gives me a headache. Last edited by tennis_the_menace : 04-22-2007 at 09:44 AM.
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