kitjacoby

I currently play on an old (small writing) Bach 3C and it's starting to feel a little tight for me now (I've been on it for a few years). I'm looking at either of the manufacturers mentioned above. Currently, I am leaning towards the Warburton system (I've yet to try either make), simply because I can go to a shop and try some out, rather than have to get them posted etc.

Any thoughts?

K

Tim McGinley

Both manufacturers make a fantastic product. As far as quality and sound, I don't think you could go wrong with either one. However, the comparison of rims is quite different between the two.

If you look into Warburton, the 4 series is close to the old Bach 3C.

If you are looking GR check out the 65 - 65.6 - 66 series. These are comparable. It all depends on the rim contour you are most comfortable with.

Good luck in your search!

Tootsall

I went from a Bach 3C to a Warburton 4MC/B9. Ended up at GR 66***.

Both Warburton and GR make a fine product but you have to find the one that fits YOUR chops, not mine!

camelbrass

If you do look at GR try the 3 series. The rim is very similar to the old Bach 3 and even though the inner diameter measures .66ins it feels a little bigger and more generous.

Regards,


Trevor

MrLT

What do you mean by "tight"? both GR and warburton are excellent. I decided to try GR - a 67M and 67C* changing from my bach 1 1/2C. I really didn't like them, so it was an expensive trial (there are no UK GR dealers as far as I know). I'm sure there is a GR out there for me (their range is enormous) but i just can't afford to find it! I've just picked up some Warburtons -3MD and 3M top and 4, 6 and 8 backbores on approval from a UK dealer (Myatts). I'm gravitating towards the 3MD/4 combination which gives me a very powerful projecting sound and dials in a bit more resistance on my horn, which is, i realise, a bit too open blowing for me. I like the warburtons a lot because you can rationally dissect out which cup and backbore is best. I haven't noticed any intonation issues, the 3MD/4 is probably not quite as open in the very low register but is very stable and focused in the high register.

kitjacoby

By 'tight', I just mean that it's now starting to actually feel a bit small, like I can't get enought lip into the rim!

Anyway, I've been in touch with GR, and they put me in touch with their Dutch dealer who is supposed to offer trials, but they haven't replied to my email - and a friend of mine who also wanted to try the GR range has emailed them on several occasions, and while they replied at first, they now seem to be ignoring him - so I'll probably go with Warburton when I get the chance to get over to Bristol to try them out. From looking at they specs, I think I'm looking to try a 3 rim, with either an M or MC, with either a Q or KT, or a 6, 7 or 8 backbore.

Thanks for your advice, guys.

K

londonhusker

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Claude Gnocchi

My answer to the "Warburton or GR" query would be - Parke!

music matters

I would try a bach 1 1/2 C first. GR's have a very different sound and you could end up spending a lot of money and not being happy. I think you have to try them rather than buying them unplayed.

Graham

dcstep

The GR67C is a great alternative to a Bach 1 1/2C. If you play both classical and lead, then you may be better off with a C* or C**, but for straight classical the C is wonderful with most horns.

Still, it's a player/mpc/trumpet system, so it's very difficult to say which is the best without hearing you try them. Unfortunately, that's tough for a lot of people around the world, since GR is still building its sales network.

Dave