midwestchops

just kidding. but now i have a line of people looking at this and wanting to hit me i actually do have a mp ? though. i dont have a shop that carries mouthpieces around here and i thought i knew what i wanted, but ive seen several posts throughout the internet that have me perplexed. im playing a bach 3c now, which is ok. the thing is i had a schilke 14a4a that i tried for a while. i really liked the rim, but i like the round sound of the 3c more. the 14a was very bright as i expected, but decided that i didnt like it. now i loved the comfortable 4 rim on the schilk, and i would actually like a wider rim and deeper cup than my bach with the comfortable rim on the schilke. now if i remember correctly the rim on my schilke 14 was actually wider than my bach, however i have seen several posts where people are saying that the schilke 17 is comparable to a bach 6 what gives? according to the measurements the schilk 17 is much bigger than a bach 6. i thought i would go with the schilk 17d4 because according to paper it looked like what i wanted. i dont have access to see all of these in person etc. can anyone clear this up a bit? is the schilk 17d4 not bigger and deeper than my bach 3c?

Manny Laureano

In the spirit of being unhelpful here's my answer:

The one that works best for YOU.

Ask your teacher.

Try a bunch of different ones.

Sorry, I just figured I'd beat everyone else to it. Forgive me if I left any of the other unhelpful answers.

ML

Tootsall

I'll "chuck" this one into the mix: find a dealer with one of those Warburton dealer kits. You can mix and match until you are blue in the face and then pick the best combo out of the mix. Either buy that combination or make note of it and find an equivalent in another brand. Don't forget the issues of varying gap and backbore shape; you really do want to get "as close as possible in all respects" if you are going to go with someone else's.

cornetguy

go with sound and feel don't look at the numbers on the side of the mouthpiece. what gives you the sound you are looking for with reasonably decent intonation and you don't have to fight it.

Solar Bell

I'm not allowed to give a reply to this perplexing query.

-cw-

midwestchops

im not explaining myself well i guess. im not asking you the dreaded which mouthpiece should i get question, i know its a matter of what feels best for each person, what im saying is, i know i like the feel of the rim on the schilke, but i like the tone of the deeper cup. i was under the assumption that shilke mp got "bigger" with their bigger numbers, but people saying that a schilk 17 is the same size as a bach 6 doesnt make any sense as the "measured" size of the schilk is quite a bit bigger than a bach 6. I understand the "trying a bunch of different ones" route, but unfortunately all of us arent that well off that we can spend hundreds of dollars on mouthpieces. if i can have the schilke rim, which i already know i like, that is a bit "bigger" and deeper than my 3c i would be extremely happy, im just trying to figure out if im missing something because of the afforementioned comparison that doesnt make sense to me.

gzent

First off, whoever told you a Schilke 17 was the same as a Bach 6 is full of it.

Refer to Schilke's web page for a comparison of Schilke numbering to Bach numbering: Schilke Music Products - Schilke Trumpets and Mouthpieces

Second, Tootsall makes a great suggestion - find (or buy) one of those Warburton mouthpiece kits with like 5 different tops and 4 or 5 backbores and play with them for a couple weeks. It will help you match up your playing needs with the right sized mouthpiece.

Oh, and yes, the Schilke 17 is bigger than a Bach 3, significantly.

midwestchops

thats what i thought, but after reading all the bs, i wanted a good confirmation. thank you. thats basically the answer i was looking for.

Manny Laureano

Hey, like I said... I was trying to be unhelpful

ML

richtom

Someone named Best should produce mouthpieces.
I can hear it now: "I use the Best 1C in all my work. It's the Best"!!!
No more wondering what the "best" mouthpiece is.
Oh, by the way. Last summer I got to talk to Forrest Buchtel, you know, the fellow the 14A4a was designed for. He got a chuckle out of my comment that he should have demanded a dollar from Schilke for every one of those 14A4a's they have sold.
Rich Tomasek